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  #16  
Old December 5th 17, 09:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_4_]
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In message , Rene Lamontagne
writes:
On 12/05/2017 7:04 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:

[]
Well you fellows got my curiosity up about registry cleaners.
I have never used one, So having a 1 day old Macrium backup I
decided to have a look.

I exported the registry to a blank folder and checked it's size it
was 377 MB.
Ran Ccleaner registry cleaner and it took 4 passes before it
reported no errors'
Exported it again and found the new clean size to be(drum roll) 383 MB!

[]
Case Closed.

Rene

Maybe Ccleaner has done you a favour. I've never seen it do multiple
passes, and I'd guess it was repairing something that might have been
about to crash your system. 6MB added to shore up a shaky wall.
Ed


I dunno Ed, I have never used a registry cleaner and this was just an
experiment to see what happened but I always assumed they were supposed
to remove overburden.
This system has always been quick and smart and using this registry
cleaner doesn't seemed to have hurt or helped it any, I'm just very
surprised that it added instead of subtracting.

Rene

It's also possible that it would have gone from 377 to 383 MB during
that session even if you _hadn't_ run the cleaner - in other words, the
increase may not be due to the cleaner. I'd suspect it wasn't, in fact;
we can argue for ever as to whether cleaners do any good or actually do
harm, but I don't think they will _increase_ it.

The defragger someone mentioned, now that sounds as if it should be both
worthwhile and harmless, if the registry is really a file system (an
obfuscated one, as Paul puts it).

I've _never_ thought the registry a good idea. Common libraries, i. e.
the .DLL system, yes (though that has its problems when backward
compatibility is compromised), but - apart from the undetectable
advantage of loading from RAM rather than disc - I've never seen its
advantage over .ini files, for software settings.
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  #17  
Old December 6th 17, 03:01 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Java Jive
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On 05/12/2017 16:09, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

On 12/05/2017 9:33 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

IT now reads 618 MBs!!!!


Checked again, now back to 384 MBs.


As at least one other has advised, the registry is held natively in a
binary format, but choosing File, Export will export the selected key in
text format.

AFAICR, in XP-, you used to be able to read off, and if required limit,
the current registry size, in its native binary format, by
rt-click-ing My Computer, and choosing Properties, Advanced,
Performance, to take you into the Virtual Memory and Paging settings,
but that subsection controlling the Registry has disappeared from
Vista+. I don't know how you find out the true binary registry size in
in W7 other than, as others have suggested, adding up the sizes of the
component files.

In W7, The registry natively exports in UTF-16, which in simple terms is
two bytes per character, but some text editors may 'transparently'
convert this to, in decreasing order of probability, ANSI, UTF-8, or
ASCII/DOS all of which use only 1 byte per character. Further, they may
do this on loading the file when it is opened, or upon saving it when it
has been changed. Hence the apparent doubling of size could simply be
due to the program you used to open it, or whether you made any changes
to it, even an unintentional one such as inserting a blank line by
pressing Return.
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Old December 6th 17, 03:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Java Jive" wrote

| AFAICR, in XP-, you used to be able to read off, and if required limit,
| the current registry size, in its native binary format, by
| rt-click-ing My Computer, and choosing Properties, Advanced,
| Performance, to take you into the Virtual Memory and Paging settings,
| but that subsection controlling the Registry has disappeared from
| Vista+.

I've never seen what you describe. I use the XP
paging settings to put a fixed-sized swap file on
a different partition and block any swap file from
C drive. But there's nothing there about the Registry.
I wouldn't see the point, anyway. Why would anyone
limit the size? Anything written there would be written
for a purpose. It processes were suddenly blocked
due to size limits the system would begin to act
unstable in numerous ways.


I don't know how you find out the true binary registry size in
| in W7 other than, as others have suggested, adding up the sizes of the
| component files.
|
| In W7, The registry natively exports in UTF-16, which in simple terms is
| two bytes per character, but some text editors may 'transparently'
| convert this to, in decreasing order of probability, ANSI, UTF-8, or
| ASCII/DOS all of which use only 1 byte per character. Further, they may
| do this on loading the file when it is opened, or upon saving it when it
| has been changed. Hence the apparent doubling of size could simply be
| due to the program you used to open it, or whether you made any changes
| to it, even an unintentional one such as inserting a blank line by
| pressing Return.


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Old December 6th 17, 04:22 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Java Jive
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On 06/12/2017 14:08, Mayayana wrote:
"Java Jive" wrote

| AFAICR, in XP-, you used to be able to read off, and if required limit,
| the current registry size, in its native binary format, by
| rt-click-ing My Computer, and choosing Properties, Advanced,
| Performance, to take you into the Virtual Memory and Paging settings,
| but that subsection controlling the Registry has disappeared from
| Vista+.

I've never seen what you describe.


I said AFAICR because I was then in too much of a hurry to check this
(washing machine flood), but, having now done so, the first line of my
paragraph quoted above should have read:

In Win2k-, you used to be able to read off, and if required limit ...


It's there in W2k-, but, as you rightly point out, not in XP+.
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Old December 6th 17, 04:25 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Java Jive" wrote

| I said AFAICR because I was then in too much of a hurry to check this
| (washing machine flood), but, having now done so, the first line of my
| paragraph quoted above should have read:
|
| In Win2k-, you used to be able to read off, and if required limit ...
|
| It's there in W2k-, but, as you rightly point out, not in XP+.

Odd. I wonder why they removed it.... Or why they ever
had it, for that matter. But either way, it's certainly less
important than water filling up your cellar. Good luck with
the flood.


 




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