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  #16  
Old December 5th 17, 02:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Cryer
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jbm wrote:
On 04/12/2017 23:07, Ed Cryer wrote:


And tell your friend that many public libraries have computer rooms
these days, where you can use one for free.
Our one gives you a 1-hour slot.

Ed


You're lucky. Where I live in the UK they start charging you as soon as
you sit down - £1 for every 20 minutes.

jim


My guess is that that's one of your council's solutions to handle cuts.
Our council has started charging 30GBP per annum to empty green wheelies.

Ed

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Old December 5th 17, 02:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Alek wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote on 12/4/2017 6:07 PM:
Big Al wrote:
On 12/04/2017 05:43 PM, Alek wrote:
Wellllllll, he rebooted one more time and guess what?

Alek wrote on 12/4/2017 5:12 PM:
A dear old friend called me in a panic -- "my computer won't boot".
Windows 10 on an 8-year-old PC.

I walked him though all the repair/restore/reset options and nothing
worked.

Any thoughts as to what is wrong?

Since he needs to pay bills online no later than Thursday, I suggested
he go out and buy a new computer, and set it up for the most important
tasks. And then we can consider getting his files off the old HD onto
the new.

What do you think?

Please, no snarky remarks. We're both 83 y.o. and have lost a few brain
cells. No, he hasn't made any backups although he did copy some files to
thumb drives.

Oh, he lives an hour away and doesn't drive at night. I hardly drive at
all these days.

Thanks.

Heat?** Hurry with the new computer and make a backup with Macrium or
such, ASAP!
That's my 2cents..


And tell your friend that many public libraries have computer rooms
these days, where you can use one for free.
Our one gives you a 1-hour slot.

Ed


I wouldn't recommend paying bills with a public computer.


Maybe you're right there.

A tablet running Android can pay your bills. If he has wifi on his
router, then one of these (as backup bill-payer with lots of games to
play in transit, queues and more) will be welcome;
http://www.argos.co.uk/browse/techno...blets/c:30159/

Note the cheapness.

Ed


  #18  
Old December 5th 17, 06:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Alek wrote:
I wouldn't recommend paying bills with a public computer.


Depends on *which* public computers. The computers I manage for my
county library are all fully patched latest LTS version of Ubuntu, wired
connection, and browser locked down to prevent even the idiot from
saving personal information.

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Old December 5th 17, 06:33 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Alek wrote:
I wouldn't recommend paying bills with a public computer.


Someone who is performing essential personal business or health related
activities online should have a 'backup'/alternate plan B for what to do
when their computer or its OS or power source or connectivity goes down.



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Old December 5th 17, 07:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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"Should". :-)

Mike Easter wrote on 12/5/2017 12:33 PM:
Alek wrote:
I wouldn't recommend paying bills with a public computer.


Someone who is performing essential personal business or health related
activities online should have a 'backup'/alternate plan B for what to do
when their computer or its OS or power source or connectivity goes down.



  #21  
Old December 5th 17, 07:32 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ed Cryer
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Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-12-05 08:28, Ed Cryer wrote:
jbm wrote:
On 04/12/2017 23:07, Ed Cryer wrote:


And tell your friend that many public libraries have computer rooms
these days, where you can use one for free.
Our one gives you a 1-hour slot.

Ed


You're lucky. Where I live in the UK they start charging you as soon
as you sit down - £1 for every 20 minutes.

jim


My guess is that that's one of your council's solutions to handle cuts.
Our council has started charging 30GBP per annum to empty green wheelies.

Ed


Cutting taxes at the national level just sifts the taxes to the local
level. Political Economy 101.


That sounds like the old feudal economics. We're into democratic,
new-age, capitalism here. It goes like this. We elect a left-wing
government that loves the people. They go to the gnomes of Zurich at
Gringolds Bank, and bring home lots of lovely dosh that they scatter
over the people. Eventually half the people revolt, saying that only the
people at the lower end of the income spectrum are getting better, so we
elect a right-wing government to unfetter the wealth-producers. They
trundle along nicely, fending off all counter-counter-revs from the
housing estates until the debt-repayments begin to cripple us.

New Plan. Let's make everybody middle-class. Own their own homes, have
shares in banks and utilities, read 19th c Russian novels, give
dinner-parties, enfranchise all minorities, embrace the world.
Until ...... (all of a sudden) Brexit! WTF?
Followed closely by the Donald! WTF?

So then we look to history to display regularities, show us what's
likely now. And, of course, we find it - war; something to wipe out the
worries, unite the tribes, realign values (courage and reckless
patriotism come to predominate over all others), reduce a few countries
to rubble.

Ed

  #22  
Old December 5th 17, 08:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 04/12/2017 22:12, Alek wrote:
A dear old friend called me in a panic -- "my computer won't boot".
Windows 10 on an 8-year-old PC.

I walked him though all the repair/restore/reset options and nothing worked.


Are you surprised?

Any thoughts as to what is wrong?


It is your knowledge of Windows 10 machine. You should really be using
a Linux machine. Ask Johnny ) how this can be
done. Linux makes you look intelligent because you don't have to do
anything that is useful for other people.


Since he needs to pay bills online no later than Thursday, I suggested
he go out and buy a new computer, and set it up for the most important
tasks. And then we can consider getting his files off the old HD onto
the new.

What do you think?


A very stupid suggestion if you ask me; Frankly.


Please, no snarky remarks. We're both 83 y.o. and have lost a few brain
cells.

So you don't have much time left on this planet. Good luck to you.

No, he hasn't made any backups although he did copy some files to
thumb drives.


At 83 backups are of no use. He shouldn't waste time on this.

Oh, he lives an hour away and doesn't drive at night. I hardly drive at
all these days.


Tell him to ring his geek shop and they will fix it for him.




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Old December 5th 17, 08:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 05/12/2017 18:32, Ed Cryer wrote:

Cutting taxes at the national level just sifts the taxes to the local
level. Political Economy 101.



New Plan. Let's make everybody middle-class. Own their own homes, have
shares in banks and utilities, read 19th c Russian novels, give
dinner-parties, enfranchise all minorities, embrace the world.


Don't be silly. The new plan should be to stop giving free education to
masses. Instead, education should be given to people who comes from
good families and not likely to misuse this privilege. Also make sure
those who commit crimes should be given log sentences such as 100 years
for defrauding people, or murders or rapists or terrorists and drug dealers.


Until ...... (all of a sudden) Brexit! WTF?


Brexit is a good thing and I hope Teresa MAy would walk out without a
deal and we can start afresh by collaborating with our old friends - the
commonwealth, North & South America, and China.

Followed closely by the Donald! WTF?


Donald Trump is a very good president. Muslims would start respecting
us once again.




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  #24  
Old December 5th 17, 10:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Doomsdrzej[_2_]
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On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 18:32:46 +0000, Ed Cryer
wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
On 2017-12-05 08:28, Ed Cryer wrote:
jbm wrote:
On 04/12/2017 23:07, Ed Cryer wrote:


And tell your friend that many public libraries have computer rooms
these days, where you can use one for free.
Our one gives you a 1-hour slot.

Ed


You're lucky. Where I live in the UK they start charging you as soon
as you sit down - 1 for every 20 minutes.

jim


My guess is that that's one of your council's solutions to handle cuts.
Our council has started charging 30GBP per annum to empty green wheelies.

Ed


Cutting taxes at the national level just sifts the taxes to the local
level. Political Economy 101.


That sounds like the old feudal economics. We're into democratic,
new-age, capitalism here. It goes like this. We elect a left-wing
government that loves the people.


What you call "loving the people" actually constitutes sexual assault.
Ask Conyers, Weinstein, Weiner, Franken, Clinton and others about
their "love."

They go to the gnomes of Zurich at
Gringolds Bank, and bring home lots of lovely dosh that they scatter
over the people. Eventually half the people revolt, saying that only the
people at the lower end of the income spectrum are getting better, so we
elect a right-wing government to unfetter the wealth-producers. They
trundle along nicely, fending off all counter-counter-revs from the
housing estates until the debt-repayments begin to cripple us.


Yeah, liberals are definitely not the ones creating the debt. After
all, it's not like your last president doubled the debt or anything.
Also, how did the Clintons become multi-millionaires from their
political salaries?

New Plan. Let's make everybody middle-class. Own their own homes, have
shares in banks and utilities, read 19th c Russian novels, give
dinner-parties, enfranchise all minorities, embrace the world.
Until ...... (all of a sudden) Brexit! WTF?
Followed closely by the Donald! WTF?

So then we look to history to display regularities, show us what's
likely now. And, of course, we find it - war; something to wipe out the
worries, unite the tribes, realign values (courage and reckless
patriotism come to predominate over all others), reduce a few countries
to rubble.


Liberalism will reduce us to ashes, conservatism will allow all
civilizations to flourish.
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Old December 5th 17, 10:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Doomsdrzej[_2_]
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On Tue, 5 Dec 2017 19:57:38 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:

On 05/12/2017 18:32, Ed Cryer wrote:

Cutting taxes at the national level just sifts the taxes to the local
level. Political Economy 101.



New Plan. Let's make everybody middle-class. Own their own homes, have
shares in banks and utilities, read 19th c Russian novels, give
dinner-parties, enfranchise all minorities, embrace the world.


Don't be silly. The new plan should be to stop giving free education to
masses. Instead, education should be given to people who comes from
good families and not likely to misuse this privilege.


Agreed. I have a ton of students who truly shouldn't be anywhere near
a classroom. We don't want them there and they don't want to be in the
classroom either.

Also make sure
those who commit crimes should be given log sentences such as 100 years
for defrauding people, or murders or rapists or terrorists and drug dealers.


A guillotine will do just as well. Why allow them to keep sucking at
the social tit by persisting in existing?


Until ...... (all of a sudden) Brexit! WTF?


Brexit is a good thing and I hope Teresa MAy would walk out without a
deal and we can start afresh by collaborating with our old friends - the
commonwealth, North & South America, and China.

Followed closely by the Donald! WTF?


Donald Trump is a very good president. Muslims would start respecting
us once again.


Donald Trump, so far, is the best president I've ever seen.
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Old December 5th 17, 10:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Tue, 05 Dec 2017 16:13:23 -0500, Doomsdrzej wrote:

Donald Trump, so far, is the best^H^H^H^H first president I've ever seen.


FIFY


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Old December 5th 17, 11:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Alek
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Doomsdrzej wrote on 12/5/2017 4:11 PM:

Liberalism will reduce us to ashes, conservatism will allow all
civilizations to flourish.


Too bad we don't have that in the US!
  #28  
Old December 5th 17, 11:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 05/12/2017 09:02, Bob Henson wrote:
jbm wrote:

On 04/12/2017 23:07, Ed Cryer wrote:


And tell your friend that many public libraries have computer rooms
these days, where you can use one for free.
Our one gives you a 1-hour slot.

Ed


You're lucky. Where I live in the UK they start charging you as soon as
you sit down - £1 for every 20 minutes.


Wow! That's steep. In Gloucestershire they're all free one hour slots. You
even get free volunteer computer buddies to help if you're struggling. The
only thing they charge for is printing.




I knew I was living in the wrong part of the country. This is
Northamptonshire, the county that has to make £10M savings/cuts by
Christmas. To that end, they are proposing to cut all bus subsidies in
the county, close 28 of the existing 38 libraries (so we won't need to
pay for computer use after that) and slash the adult social services
budget. They then have to find a further £28M savings/cuts by the end of
the financial year - April 5th 2018. Oh! They are also forcing every
single one of their staff to take an extra one day unpaid leave over the
Xmas period!!!

The ruling Tory County Council took the decision not to raise Council
Tax levels for 10 of the last 14 years, so they were then able to boast
that this county had the lowest level of Council Tax in the whole
country, at the expense of not raising some extra £60M in revenue over
that time. And now they are bleating that do not have enough money to
pay for the services they are supposed to provide. There is now serious
talk that they are only going to be able to supply services that they
are legally obliged/compelled to provide. This is a rural shire county,
so it is virtually impossible that the ruling administration will change
in the near (or for that matter distant) future. And just to rub real
brine into the wounds, they have just spent over £50M on a new
headquarters for themselves, saying they could close and sell off 12
otherwise redundant properties around the county. The move to the new
building was carried out several weeks (months?) ago, but not one of
those 12 old building are yet empty, nor are any of them on the market
for sale. Where do we go?

jim


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Old December 6th 17, 12:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Doomsdrzej[_2_]
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On Tue, 05 Dec 2017 15:28:09 -0600, James
wrote:

On Tue, 05 Dec 2017 16:13:23 -0500, Doomsdrzej wrote:

Donald Trump, so far, is the best^H^H^H^H first president I've ever seen.


FIFY


Too lazy to even write a whole phrase or sentence? That's liberals for
you.
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Old December 6th 17, 03:27 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 12/5/2017 5:54 PM, jbm wrote:
pay for the services they are supposed to provide.

I from across the sea. Is it a law as to what these service are? Or
just tradition?

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