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Old December 30th 17, 03:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 problem with folder of .MTS files

"Maurice" wrote

| Why not just install VLC?
|
| Not a 'player' problem.
| W7 'My Computer' would not even show the MTS directory.
|
I understood that, and MP may not be the problem,
but music players are like browsers. Companies that
make them tend to be competitive. I wouldn't be
surprised if MS snubbed formats they don't handle.
They like to take the same approach with MP that
they do with IE: Build it in, make it unremovable, and
pretend it's part of the OS.


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Old January 2nd 18, 03:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 problem with folder of .MTS files

Maurice news Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:53:51 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 22:23:32 +0000, Diesel wrote:

didn't tell his linux machine he was done with the drive and just
pulled it.


How many more times do I have to state that that was not the
case?


I appreciate that you're of the mistaken impression that Windows will
'hide' files it doesn't recognize sitting in a folder, but, that's
never been something Windows (or any other OS I'm familiar with) does.
When you ran chkdsk it found what it thought were orphaned file
fragments (in some cases entire files depending on size and location on
the disc, as was in your case since simply renaming them allowed you to
view them) and did it's best to reallocate the space it thought they
should have been assigned. Windows rightly/wrongly thought there was an
issue with the file system present on the USB stick, it was NOT trying
to hide files from you because it didn't recognize the extension.




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Old January 2nd 18, 03:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Maurice news Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:51:40 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 22:23:32 +0000, Diesel wrote:

You had some sort of issue copying those files from your linux
machine over to that stick. To the point where Windows thought
the folder contents were corrupt.


No, only W7 had a problem. File system etc all exactly the same
for all directories on the drive.
Only if the files in a certain directory had filetype 'MTS' did
W7 ignore the whole directory, whereas if the same directory instead
contained 'MOV' files it was happy as proverbial sand boy.


That's not how it works. I realize you think it does, and, assumed
based on what you observed that's what was going on, but, it wasn't.


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Old January 2nd 18, 03:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 problem with folder of .MTS files

"Mayayana"
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"Maurice" wrote

| No, only W7 had a problem. File system etc all exactly the same
| for all
| directories on the drive.
| Only if the files in a certain directory had filetype 'MTS' did
| W7
| ignore
| the whole directory, whereas if the same directory instead
| contained 'MOV'
| files it was happy as proverbial sand boy.

One thing you might check: Look in the Registry
under HKCR\.mts and see what's there. I have it
marked as a video file. I suspect VLC did that. It's
possible that .mts can also be something else that's
hidden by default. (If hiding "hidden" files is enabled.)


And a simple dir /a would still show the files, even if the hidden
attribute had been placed on them; and I don't see why that would
have been the case unless he monkeyed with registry key settings as
you outlined above. The user didn't indicate doing any such thing,
but, It's possible a software application he has installed did?

Either way, if that was the case, Windows was doing what it was told,
and, ticking view all files, or dir /a from console would still show
them in the directory, regardless of attribute settings or registry
key settings.

Why not just install VLC? I wouldn't put anything
past Microsoft when it comes to trying to push their
own media player.


I wouldn't accuse Microsoft of having Windows pretend not to see a
folders contents just to get you to use a specific player, either.
That's just not how an OS works.


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Old January 2nd 18, 03:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Maurice news Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:06:05 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 13:04:35 -0500, Mayayana wrote:

Why not just install VLC?


Not a 'player' problem.
W7 'My Computer' would not even show the MTS directory.


Did you have show all files, regardless of attribute checked?

Did you attempt to view the folder contents from console via dir /a?

She and W7 quite happy now after converting the MTS files to MOV.


W7 didn't care what the extension was, but, no harm in converting them
to a more known format either.


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Old January 2nd 18, 03:02 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Mayayana" news Sat, 30 Dec 2017 14:20:20 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

"Maurice" wrote

| Why not just install VLC?
|
| Not a 'player' problem.
| W7 'My Computer' would not even show the MTS directory.
|
I understood that, and MP may not be the problem,
but music players are like browsers. Companies that
make them tend to be competitive. I wouldn't be
surprised if MS snubbed formats they don't handle.
They like to take the same approach with MP that
they do with IE: Build it in, make it unremovable, and
pretend it's part of the OS.




Snubbed as in refuse to load sure, but, umm, not intentionally cause
the OS itself to pretend it doesn't see files based on extension alone,
no. Normally you're smarter than this.


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Old January 3rd 18, 03:37 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Default Windows 7 problem with folder of .MTS files

Maurice news Fri, 29 Dec 2017 17:53:51 GMT in alt.windows7.general, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 22:23:32 +0000, Diesel wrote:

didn't tell his linux machine he was done with the drive and just
pulled it.


How many more times do I have to state that that was not the
case?

Regards,


Alright. here's a simple test you can perform if it happens again to
you in the future. open a console, navigate to the folder that you
think Windows is pretending is empty. type dir /a and see what you
get. Unless file system corruption has taken place, or windows thinks
it has, regardless of file manager or attribute settings, you will
see the folder contents, regardless of file extension. Btw, even if
windows thinks some file corruption has occured, dir /a usually will
still show some stuff to you; but the filenames and/or filesizes
might be way off; further indicating a problem with the file system,
not the OS.

And as I said previously, just because linux sees something don't
assume it's all gravy. Linux I've learned has various 'cheats' it
will use to do it's best to retrieve that file and it's contents for
you, even if the storage medium and/or file system is partially
damaged/corrupt. It's so damn good at it infact, I routinely use a
linux box to perform data recovery these days. It's much more fault
tolerant due to the tricks it uses. I have external drive kits, that
I can attach ide/sata to and plugin to a usb port. So I can checkout
the drive without any security restrictions, permissions, etc,
getting in my way. Fantastic for exploring/accessing ntfs drives that
may/may not be damaged in some way. User permissions aren't
recognized on ntfs under linux, so a users 'private' folders (short
of using crypto) aren't so private anymore.




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