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  #46  
Old December 29th 17, 01:03 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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T wrote:

Somewhere out there I heard Intel was working on an i9.


Core i9 CPUs have been available for about three months.

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  #47  
Old December 29th 17, 04:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:48:05 -0800, T wrote:


On 12/28/2017 04:00 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:38:40 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:



1) do not "collect" software. Be minimalist and
only install what you need


I disagree. What you install is insignificant. What you run is
significant.



And even that isn't always significant. For most programs, if they are
running, but not actively being used, they quickly get paged out and
have no effect on performance or anything else.



Ken,

You are missing all the S*** that gets copied into system32 and
the DLL hell it sometimes can create. Not to mention if you
remove a program and it clobbers a shared DLL.

Windows is a house of cards, but you can cope with it and never
land on what I am speaking of if you follow a the few simple
rules I point out.




Since you keep saying the same thing, I will also repeat myself: I
completely disagree.
  #48  
Old December 29th 17, 04:24 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Rene Lamontagne
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On 12/29/2017 1:17 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:38:40 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 15:09:57 -0800, T wrote:

On 12/28/2017 01:35 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

I am anything but an evangelist. Microsoft does some things very
well, and other things terribly. I am simply reporting my experience
with my computers, my wife's computer, and several others I support.

Hi Ken,

And you probably did not buy crappy computers either. A lot
of my customers step over dollars to save dimes.




Yes, but then don't blame their problems on Windows.


I have probably have supported about 200 or more over two
counties over the years.

People who find Windows to be unstable invariably either have flaky
hardware,

Agreed.

are infected with malware

Junkware especially is a total nuisance. I have
had customers with junkware bombs on them that could
hardly move their mouse. I usually go into a
Live USB and delete the temp files, delete offenders
from the run section of the registry, and nail anything
I know for sure in Program Files. Then boot back into
Windows and run junkware scanners.

, or have made bad mistakes in
setting up and configuring it.

Somewhat.

And, the big one you missed is that M$'s quality sucks.




Once again, I completely disagree.


If you have ever run Fedora and Windows Nein (w10) side
by side on the same machine, the dead comes to life
and you will know what I mean.



I've never run any version on Linux on any machine. I have no interest
in it, and I have no problems with Windows.



Fedora just works. When I support Linux and
Apple computers, I assist with software and configurations.
I very, very seldom have to dicker with the system,
fix crashes, fix jammed updates or any of that
type of nonsense. Fedora is a dream to work on.

The only reason to run Windows, other than if you
are masochistic, is that Windows has all the applications
and you can't get your work done on Apple or Linux.
This is why there is no end in sight for Windows.



Again, I disagree.



And there are ways to cope with Windows. I have
a set of "Windows Self Defense" rules I give my
customers:

1) do not "collect" software. Be minimalist and
only install what you need



I disagree. What you install is insignificant. What you run is
significant.


2) Windows is not ready when you boot it. It only
looks ready. That is a marketing tool to make you
think Windows boots faster that it does. Wait a
bit before starting to use it. Getting a cup of
coffee is perfect.



Again, I disagree.


3) only have open what you are using. DO NOT start
every program you think you might use that day and
leave it running.



Depends on the program. With most programs, doing so doesn't matter.


4) Windows typically crashes on the installment
program. Do not wait for the "spectacular" crash.
As soon as Windows starts acting "weird" -- arrow
keys stop working, etc. -- reboot your machine.




Windows never starts acting "weird" here.


5) Windows need a reboot once a day to remain stable.
A nightly power off is perfect.



Again, I strongly disagree. Windows is completely stable and I never
reboot . I'll say it one more time: " I *never* do that--not unless an
update requires it,* or I am going away on vacation. And Windows
remains completely stable."



And turn off "Fast Boot"

More than you wanted to know? Huh?



What I know is that I strongly disagree with your "Windows Self
Defense rules."


Ditto on everything you said above. Todd's rules only apply to Todd.
Most people don't have the problems that he seems to keep running into.


Are you saying "Self inflicted". :-)

Rene

  #49  
Old December 29th 17, 04:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:17:00 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:38:40 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:


On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 15:09:57 -0800, T wrote:


On 12/28/2017 01:35 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

I am anything but an evangelist. Microsoft does some things very
well, and other things terribly. I am simply reporting my experience
with my computers, my wife's computer, and several others I support.

Hi Ken,

And you probably did not buy crappy computers either. A lot
of my customers step over dollars to save dimes.




Yes, but then don't blame their problems on Windows.



I have probably have supported about 200 or more over two
counties over the years.

People who find Windows to be unstable invariably either have flaky
hardware,

Agreed.

are infected with malware

Junkware especially is a total nuisance. I have
had customers with junkware bombs on them that could
hardly move their mouse. I usually go into a
Live USB and delete the temp files, delete offenders
from the run section of the registry, and nail anything
I know for sure in Program Files. Then boot back into
Windows and run junkware scanners.

, or have made bad mistakes in
setting up and configuring it.

Somewhat.

And, the big one you missed is that M$'s quality sucks.




Once again, I completely disagree.



If you have ever run Fedora and Windows Nein (w10) side
by side on the same machine, the dead comes to life
and you will know what I mean.



I've never run any version on Linux on any machine. I have no interest
in it, and I have no problems with Windows.




Fedora just works. When I support Linux and
Apple computers, I assist with software and configurations.
I very, very seldom have to dicker with the system,
fix crashes, fix jammed updates or any of that
type of nonsense. Fedora is a dream to work on.

The only reason to run Windows, other than if you
are masochistic, is that Windows has all the applications
and you can't get your work done on Apple or Linux.
This is why there is no end in sight for Windows.



Again, I disagree.




And there are ways to cope with Windows. I have
a set of "Windows Self Defense" rules I give my
customers:

1) do not "collect" software. Be minimalist and
only install what you need



I disagree. What you install is insignificant. What you run is
significant.



2) Windows is not ready when you boot it. It only
looks ready. That is a marketing tool to make you
think Windows boots faster that it does. Wait a
bit before starting to use it. Getting a cup of
coffee is perfect.



Again, I disagree.



3) only have open what you are using. DO NOT start
every program you think you might use that day and
leave it running.



Depends on the program. With most programs, doing so doesn't matter.



4) Windows typically crashes on the installment
program. Do not wait for the "spectacular" crash.
As soon as Windows starts acting "weird" -- arrow
keys stop working, etc. -- reboot your machine.




Windows never starts acting "weird" here.



5) Windows need a reboot once a day to remain stable.
A nightly power off is perfect.



Again, I strongly disagree. Windows is completely stable and I never
reboot . I'll say it one more time: " I *never* do that--not unless an
update requires it,* or I am going away on vacation. And Windows
remains completely stable."




And turn off "Fast Boot"

More than you wanted to know? Huh?



What I know is that I strongly disagree with your "Windows Self
Defense rules."


Ditto on everything you said above. Todd's rules only apply to Todd.
Most people don't have the problems that he seems to keep running into.




The reason he runs into these problems is that people with these
problems contact him for help. He doesn't get to see the computers of
people without problems. As I think I said in another message in this
thread, hang around a transmission shop, and you'll think all cars
have transmissions problems.
  #50  
Old December 29th 17, 07:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:28:19 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:17:00 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:38:40 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 15:09:57 -0800, T wrote:

On 12/28/2017 01:35 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

I am anything but an evangelist. Microsoft does some things very
well, and other things terribly. I am simply reporting my experience
with my computers, my wife's computer, and several others I support.

Hi Ken,

And you probably did not buy crappy computers either. A lot
of my customers step over dollars to save dimes.



Yes, but then don't blame their problems on Windows.


I have probably have supported about 200 or more over two
counties over the years.

People who find Windows to be unstable invariably either have flaky
hardware,

Agreed.

are infected with malware

Junkware especially is a total nuisance. I have
had customers with junkware bombs on them that could
hardly move their mouse. I usually go into a
Live USB and delete the temp files, delete offenders
from the run section of the registry, and nail anything
I know for sure in Program Files. Then boot back into
Windows and run junkware scanners.

, or have made bad mistakes in
setting up and configuring it.

Somewhat.

And, the big one you missed is that M$'s quality sucks.



Once again, I completely disagree.


If you have ever run Fedora and Windows Nein (w10) side
by side on the same machine, the dead comes to life
and you will know what I mean.


I've never run any version on Linux on any machine. I have no interest
in it, and I have no problems with Windows.



Fedora just works. When I support Linux and
Apple computers, I assist with software and configurations.
I very, very seldom have to dicker with the system,
fix crashes, fix jammed updates or any of that
type of nonsense. Fedora is a dream to work on.

The only reason to run Windows, other than if you
are masochistic, is that Windows has all the applications
and you can't get your work done on Apple or Linux.
This is why there is no end in sight for Windows.


Again, I disagree.



And there are ways to cope with Windows. I have
a set of "Windows Self Defense" rules I give my
customers:

1) do not "collect" software. Be minimalist and
only install what you need


I disagree. What you install is insignificant. What you run is
significant.


2) Windows is not ready when you boot it. It only
looks ready. That is a marketing tool to make you
think Windows boots faster that it does. Wait a
bit before starting to use it. Getting a cup of
coffee is perfect.


Again, I disagree.


3) only have open what you are using. DO NOT start
every program you think you might use that day and
leave it running.


Depends on the program. With most programs, doing so doesn't matter.


4) Windows typically crashes on the installment
program. Do not wait for the "spectacular" crash.
As soon as Windows starts acting "weird" -- arrow
keys stop working, etc. -- reboot your machine.



Windows never starts acting "weird" here.


5) Windows need a reboot once a day to remain stable.
A nightly power off is perfect.


Again, I strongly disagree. Windows is completely stable and I never
reboot . I'll say it one more time: " I *never* do that--not unless an
update requires it,* or I am going away on vacation. And Windows
remains completely stable."



And turn off "Fast Boot"

More than you wanted to know? Huh?


What I know is that I strongly disagree with your "Windows Self
Defense rules."


Ditto on everything you said above. Todd's rules only apply to Todd.
Most people don't have the problems that he seems to keep running into.




The reason he runs into these problems is that people with these
problems contact him for help. He doesn't get to see the computers of
people without problems. As I think I said in another message in this
thread, hang around a transmission shop, and you'll think all cars
have transmissions problems.


That's a valid analysis, but I don't think it goes far enough. Yes, he
runs into computers with problems because that's the line of work that
he's in. However, IMHO, his "solutions" are quite often way over the
top, using a 5-lb hammer to kill a fly. To me, he displays a shocking
level of incompetence regarding his chosen field.

  #51  
Old December 29th 17, 07:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 09:24:03 -0600, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

On 12/29/2017 1:17 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:38:40 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 15:09:57 -0800, T wrote:

On 12/28/2017 01:35 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

I am anything but an evangelist. Microsoft does some things very
well, and other things terribly. I am simply reporting my experience
with my computers, my wife's computer, and several others I support.

Hi Ken,

And you probably did not buy crappy computers either. A lot
of my customers step over dollars to save dimes.



Yes, but then don't blame their problems on Windows.


I have probably have supported about 200 or more over two
counties over the years.

People who find Windows to be unstable invariably either have flaky
hardware,

Agreed.

are infected with malware

Junkware especially is a total nuisance. I have
had customers with junkware bombs on them that could
hardly move their mouse. I usually go into a
Live USB and delete the temp files, delete offenders
from the run section of the registry, and nail anything
I know for sure in Program Files. Then boot back into
Windows and run junkware scanners.

, or have made bad mistakes in
setting up and configuring it.

Somewhat.

And, the big one you missed is that M$'s quality sucks.



Once again, I completely disagree.


If you have ever run Fedora and Windows Nein (w10) side
by side on the same machine, the dead comes to life
and you will know what I mean.


I've never run any version on Linux on any machine. I have no interest
in it, and I have no problems with Windows.



Fedora just works. When I support Linux and
Apple computers, I assist with software and configurations.
I very, very seldom have to dicker with the system,
fix crashes, fix jammed updates or any of that
type of nonsense. Fedora is a dream to work on.

The only reason to run Windows, other than if you
are masochistic, is that Windows has all the applications
and you can't get your work done on Apple or Linux.
This is why there is no end in sight for Windows.


Again, I disagree.



And there are ways to cope with Windows. I have
a set of "Windows Self Defense" rules I give my
customers:

1) do not "collect" software. Be minimalist and
only install what you need


I disagree. What you install is insignificant. What you run is
significant.


2) Windows is not ready when you boot it. It only
looks ready. That is a marketing tool to make you
think Windows boots faster that it does. Wait a
bit before starting to use it. Getting a cup of
coffee is perfect.


Again, I disagree.


3) only have open what you are using. DO NOT start
every program you think you might use that day and
leave it running.


Depends on the program. With most programs, doing so doesn't matter.


4) Windows typically crashes on the installment
program. Do not wait for the "spectacular" crash.
As soon as Windows starts acting "weird" -- arrow
keys stop working, etc. -- reboot your machine.



Windows never starts acting "weird" here.


5) Windows need a reboot once a day to remain stable.
A nightly power off is perfect.


Again, I strongly disagree. Windows is completely stable and I never
reboot . I'll say it one more time: " I *never* do that--not unless an
update requires it,* or I am going away on vacation. And Windows
remains completely stable."



And turn off "Fast Boot"

More than you wanted to know? Huh?


What I know is that I strongly disagree with your "Windows Self
Defense rules."


Ditto on everything you said above. Todd's rules only apply to Todd.
Most people don't have the problems that he seems to keep running into.


Are you saying "Self inflicted". :-)


I guess it shouldn't bother me, but in my spare time I used to do what
Todd does. These days my day job keeps me busy. Todd is the kind of guy
I used to have to clean up after. There are a lot of Todds out there,
trying to make a living by helping people with their computer problems.
IMHO, when you know as little as Todd apparently does, it's not quite
right to charge for it. He's more suited to volunteering at a senior
center, where people appreciate the help but they aren't expected to pay
for it.

  #52  
Old December 29th 17, 08:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 12:04:23 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 08:28:19 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:


On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 01:17:00 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote:


On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 16:38:40 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 15:09:57 -0800, T wrote:

On 12/28/2017 01:35 PM, Ken Blake wrote:

I am anything but an evangelist. Microsoft does some things very
well, and other things terribly. I am simply reporting my experience
with my computers, my wife's computer, and several others I support.

Hi Ken,

And you probably did not buy crappy computers either. A lot
of my customers step over dollars to save dimes.



Yes, but then don't blame their problems on Windows.


I have probably have supported about 200 or more over two
counties over the years.

People who find Windows to be unstable invariably either have flaky
hardware,

Agreed.

are infected with malware

Junkware especially is a total nuisance. I have
had customers with junkware bombs on them that could
hardly move their mouse. I usually go into a
Live USB and delete the temp files, delete offenders
from the run section of the registry, and nail anything
I know for sure in Program Files. Then boot back into
Windows and run junkware scanners.

, or have made bad mistakes in
setting up and configuring it.

Somewhat.

And, the big one you missed is that M$'s quality sucks.



Once again, I completely disagree.


If you have ever run Fedora and Windows Nein (w10) side
by side on the same machine, the dead comes to life
and you will know what I mean.


I've never run any version on Linux on any machine. I have no interest
in it, and I have no problems with Windows.



Fedora just works. When I support Linux and
Apple computers, I assist with software and configurations.
I very, very seldom have to dicker with the system,
fix crashes, fix jammed updates or any of that
type of nonsense. Fedora is a dream to work on.

The only reason to run Windows, other than if you
are masochistic, is that Windows has all the applications
and you can't get your work done on Apple or Linux.
This is why there is no end in sight for Windows.


Again, I disagree.



And there are ways to cope with Windows. I have
a set of "Windows Self Defense" rules I give my
customers:

1) do not "collect" software. Be minimalist and
only install what you need


I disagree. What you install is insignificant. What you run is
significant.


2) Windows is not ready when you boot it. It only
looks ready. That is a marketing tool to make you
think Windows boots faster that it does. Wait a
bit before starting to use it. Getting a cup of
coffee is perfect.


Again, I disagree.


3) only have open what you are using. DO NOT start
every program you think you might use that day and
leave it running.


Depends on the program. With most programs, doing so doesn't matter.


4) Windows typically crashes on the installment
program. Do not wait for the "spectacular" crash.
As soon as Windows starts acting "weird" -- arrow
keys stop working, etc. -- reboot your machine.



Windows never starts acting "weird" here.


5) Windows need a reboot once a day to remain stable.
A nightly power off is perfect.


Again, I strongly disagree. Windows is completely stable and I never
reboot . I'll say it one more time: " I *never* do that--not unless an
update requires it,* or I am going away on vacation. And Windows
remains completely stable."



And turn off "Fast Boot"

More than you wanted to know? Huh?


What I know is that I strongly disagree with your "Windows Self
Defense rules."

Ditto on everything you said above. Todd's rules only apply to Todd.
Most people don't have the problems that he seems to keep running into.




The reason he runs into these problems is that people with these
problems contact him for help. He doesn't get to see the computers of
people without problems. As I think I said in another message in this
thread, hang around a transmission shop, and you'll think all cars
have transmissions problems.


That's a valid analysis, but I don't think it goes far enough. Yes, he
runs into computers with problems because that's the line of work that
he's in. However, IMHO, his "solutions" are quite often way over the
top, using a 5-lb hammer to kill a fly.



Yes!



To me, he displays a shocking
level of incompetence regarding his chosen field.



Double yes!!
  #53  
Old December 30th 17, 02:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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On 12/29/2017 07:28 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
The reason he runs into these problems is that people with these
problems contact him for help. He doesn't get to see the computers of
people without problems. As I think I said in another message in this
thread, hang around a transmission shop, and you'll think all cars
have transmissions problems.


Yes and well stated
  #54  
Old December 30th 17, 03:14 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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On 12/29/2017 05:37 PM, T wrote:
On 12/29/2017 07:28 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
The reason he runs into these problems is that people with these
problems contact him for help. He doesn't get to see the computers of
people without problems. As I think I said in another message in this
thread, hang around a transmission shop, and you'll think all cars
have transmissions problems.


Yes and well stated


I have my own Windows virtual machines too. I use Go To
Assist from W7 and use XP, W7 and Nein (w10) for research
for my customers. I have not got the patience to work
all day on Windows and come back to the office and experience
the same baloney, which is why I am a Linux shop.

If I come home from a day's work and am in a bad mood,
it typically is because I have been fighting with Nein
all day. It grates on you after a while.

Linux and Apple are not without their own unique problems,
but working on then is a whole different culture. I am
typically doing configuration and assisting with programs,
not fighting with system issues, junkware and viruses.
(When I do trip across a systems issue, which is rare,
they have been "spectacular", but I have somewhere to
report them and get them fixed.)

I sometimes think folks think I just insult their newborn
baby's look when I talk about Windows. That kind
of response is not helpful in drilling down to solving
issues for folks, which is what this group is about.
It in not about free advertising for one favorite product.
Helping folks starts out with being truthful about the
problems to start with.

Would it make you guys fee any better if I quoted you
some of my criticism of RHEL over on the Linux
group? You think I don't like Windows? Oh BOY.
RHEL made my life a living hell. (I absolutely
adore Fedora 27.)
  #55  
Old December 30th 17, 03:18 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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On 12/29/2017 11:30 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
That's a valid analysis, but I don't think it goes far enough. Yes, he
runs into computers with problems because that's the line of work that
he's in. However, IMHO, his "solutions" are quite often way over the
top, using a 5-lb hammer to kill a fly.


Yes!


To me, he displays a shocking
level of incompetence regarding his chosen field.


Double yes!!



I have found on all my multiple years in electronics and
as an engineer, that when I get responses back like this,
it is from posers.

Those that actually know what they are doing act
much differently. They *love* to share information
and don't result to insults when you go over their head.

In this field especially, arrogance equals incompetence.



  #56  
Old December 30th 17, 04:04 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:18:51 -0800, T wrote:


On 12/29/2017 11:30 AM, Ken Blake wrote:

That's a valid analysis, but I don't think it goes far enough. Yes, he
runs into computers with problems because that's the line of work that
he's in. However, IMHO, his "solutions" are quite often way over the
top, using a 5-lb hammer to kill a fly.


Yes!



To me, he displays a shocking
level of incompetence regarding his chosen field.


Double yes!!



I have found on all my multiple years in electronics and
as an engineer, that when I get responses back like this,
it is from posers.

Those that actually know what they are doing act
much differently. They *love* to share information
and don't result to insults when you go over their head.

In this field especially, arrogance equals incompetence.



Feel free to believe whatever you want, just as I do.
  #57  
Old January 2nd 18, 10:46 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
T
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On 12/30/2017 07:04 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:18:51 -0800, T wrote:

On 12/29/2017 11:30 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
That's a valid analysis, but I don't think it goes far enough. Yes, he
runs into computers with problems because that's the line of work that
he's in. However, IMHO, his "solutions" are quite often way over the
top, using a 5-lb hammer to kill a fly.

Yes!


To me, he displays a shocking
level of incompetence regarding his chosen field.

Double yes!!



I have found on all my multiple years in electronics and
as an engineer, that when I get responses back like this,
it is from posers.

Those that actually know what they are doing act
much differently. They *love* to share information
and don't result to insults when you go over their head.

In this field especially, arrogance equals incompetence.



Feel free to believe whatever you want, just as I do.


Hi Ken,

I do not believe you have ill intent. I just think you do not
have a statistically significant number of machines to make
a good judgment from.

-T

 




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