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Old March 16th 19, 03:47 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 05:47:15 -0500, Roy Smith
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 12:09:49 -0000, "NY" wrote:

"KenW" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 08:42:39 -0500, Art Todesco
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I have a Dell Latitude 7350 touch screen laptop with Windows 10. I
really hate Windows 10. Can it be converted to Windows 7? Will I be
able to get the touch screen working? I've tried to make it look like
Windows 7, but there are many things that just don't work well. Am I
nuts to do something like this? I appreciate any comments.

Yes. Read and learn Win 10.


I would say that you should become *reasonably* familiar with Windows 10 in
case you need to revert to that UI temporarily, even if you install Classic
Shell etc to give a UI that you are more familiar with because that's how
all previous versions of Windows have looked (with the exception of small
incremental changes from one version of Windows to another).

Unfortunately Microsoft tried to force a new UI on people, in the misguided
belief that desktop PC users should get used to something that was
simplified for use by touch screens instead of having two different UIs that
the user can select. Not surprisingly, the people who were familiar with
pre-Win8 and could "drive" that instinctively, rebelled at the gross changes
to the start menu - especially the "mess of tiles" interface where an icon
for a given program changes place from day to day, instead of being in a
fixed location on the desktop.

For me, Win10 is perfectly usable providing you install Classic Shell and as
long as you take the trouble to become vaguely familiar with the Modern
interface in case you ever have to use it.

Maybe I'm a luddite but I strongly believe that once you've designed a UI,
you stick with it through thick and thin, *adding* new features and ways of
doing things, but *never, never, never* removing the old "deprecated" way of
doing it. Make all the changes and improvements that you want "under the
hood", but keep the controls in the place that you are used to. Changing
from Windows 7 to 8 to 10 should have been no more difficult than getting
used to driving a new car: the controls may be in slightly different places,
but they should be substantially the same so there is as little
getting-used-to-it as possible. In car terms, the pedals should still be in
the same order, the gear lever and handbrake should still be between the
seats, the indicator switch should still be on the left and the wipers on
the right.


You've apparently never driven a car with three on the tree and had
the parking brake next to the clutch... or a floor mounted dimmer
switch. Guess I'm showing my age...



My car, a 2018 Camry, has the parking brake on the floor (next to
where the clutch would be if it had one) and has no dimmer switch (the
brights go on and off as needed automatically).

And I'm probably older than you (81).
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Old March 16th 19, 07:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mike
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Unfortunately Microsoft tried to force a new UI on people, in the misguided
belief that desktop PC users should get used to something that was
simplified for use by touch screens instead of having two different UIs that
the user can select. Not surprisingly, the people who were familiar with
pre-Win8 and could "drive" that instinctively, rebelled at the gross changes
to the start menu - especially the "mess of tiles" interface where an icon
for a given program changes place from day to day, instead of being in a
fixed location on the desktop.


open the start menu.
Grab any launcher and drag it or a link to it to the desktop.
Depending on whoknowswhat, you may have to press the alt key before
releasing the mouse button. Try shift, alt, ctrl to see your options.
The icon you're dragging will tell you what to expect.
I have program launchers on my desktop and more in a window created for
that purpose.
Right click on any start menu list item and pin to start or taskbar
if you like.

It's very easy to ignore the start menu.
I uninstall all the tiles on the start menu that will let me and unpin
the rest so they don't use any resources.

My start menu looks almost exactly like the window of launchers that I
created.

Windows may be your enemy, but the start menu doesn't have to be an issue.
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Old March 16th 19, 07:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:47:48 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 05:47:15 -0500, Roy Smith
wrote:
You've apparently never driven a car with three on the tree and had
the parking brake next to the clutch... or a floor mounted dimmer
switch. Guess I'm showing my age...



My car, a 2018 Camry, has the parking brake on the floor (next to
where the clutch would be if it had one) and has no dimmer switch (the
brights go on and off as needed automatically).


Are you sure it doesn't have a dimmer switch? I recently test drove a
2018 Highlander, equipped with Toyota's "Safety Sense" feature, and the
automatic behaviors (both Auto and Safety Sense) were *in addition to*
the usual manual capabilities.

With the Highlander, (and Toyota is not well known for deviating much
across models within the same model year), with the stalk-mounted switch
twisted all the way to the last position, the headlights will be on and
High/Low beam can be selected by pushing the stalk away from you (High)
or pulling the stalk back to its center position (Low). The third
position, obtained by pulling the stalk closer to you, is spring-loaded
to light the High beams temporarily, you, which is useful for flashing
the High beams.

More info:
https://www.toyotaofnaperville.com/t...lights-how-to/
https://www.serratoyota.com/blog/how...ic-high-beams/


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Old March 16th 19, 11:30 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:27:38 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:47:48 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 05:47:15 -0500, Roy Smith
wrote:
You've apparently never driven a car with three on the tree and had
the parking brake next to the clutch... or a floor mounted dimmer
switch. Guess I'm showing my age...



My car, a 2018 Camry, has the parking brake on the floor (next to
where the clutch would be if it had one) and has no dimmer switch (the
brights go on and off as needed automatically).


Are you sure it doesn't have a dimmer switch? I recently test drove a
2018 Highlander, equipped with Toyota's "Safety Sense" feature, and the
automatic behaviors (both Auto and Safety Sense) were *in addition to*
the usual manual capabilities.



The only thing I don't like about the car is it that it has so many
choices and buttons to press that I can never remember all of them. So
am I sure it doesn't have a dimmer switch? I don't think it does, but
no, I'm not sure.
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Old March 17th 19, 02:53 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bill in Co[_3_]
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 14:27:38 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:47:48 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 05:47:15 -0500, Roy Smith
wrote:
You've apparently never driven a car with three on the tree and had
the parking brake next to the clutch... or a floor mounted dimmer
switch. Guess I'm showing my age...


My car, a 2018 Camry, has the parking brake on the floor (next to
where the clutch would be if it had one) and has no dimmer switch (the
brights go on and off as needed automatically).


Are you sure it doesn't have a dimmer switch? I recently test drove a
2018 Highlander, equipped with Toyota's "Safety Sense" feature, and the
automatic behaviors (both Auto and Safety Sense) were *in addition to*
the usual manual capabilities.



The only thing I don't like about the car is it that it has so many
choices and buttons to press that I can never remember all of them.


Yup. This is the problem of ever advancing technology. Just like those new
watches (and a plethora of other gadgets) that have so many options and so
few buttons that you need to have a manual with you to even operate or
modify it. This is what would be known as a dereliction in design, courtesy
of some weak Industrial Engineering methodology in its design. And not
looking at what works best for the customer, but what is simply most "cost
effective". Better yet, just have one button to save costs, and 100 options
to select from, by using that button! I finally got fed up with the auto
locking car doors and disabled it, after I got locked out one day. (But it
"thought" it was doing me a favor and "protecting me" when the door blew
closed after I briefly stepped out)


 




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