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Has anyone *not* gotten the 1809 update yet?
On 2/6/2019 6:45 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Keep a copy of build 1803's ISO. You might NOT be able to grab it again. Yeah I do a daily image backup anyways. However, it looks like my system may not be compatible with this build, as soon as I began installing it, within an hour, it stopped the installation and gave me an option to revert back to the previous setup. |
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Yousuf Khan wrote in
news Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. I never got offered 1809 because I could never get 1803 to install properly, so I was still on 1709. I finally cloned my system drive a couple of times [a couple of years ago when my first SSD died suddenly, my copy of it on another drive wouldn't load properly, so I had to start over from scratch], and used the Microsoft Windows Update utility to download 1809 as an ISO. I mounted the ISO and ran setup.exe from there. Installed fine and works great. I'm hoping when 1903/4 is ready it will go smoothly as well. I always set the delay updates for 30 days so I can see if there are any problems first. |
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On 2/6/2019 6:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. My Win10s are still on 1803. As I see it, they work reliably and as a result I also can work. If a newer version such as 1904 brings something to the table that I can't do without, I'd get a computer known to be compatible with that version. But, I don't see anything like that in 1809, so... -- best regards, Neil |
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Neil wrote:
On 2/6/2019 6:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote: Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. My Win10s are still on 1803. As I see it, they work reliably and as a result I also can work. If a newer version such as 1904 brings something to the table that I can't do without, I'd get a computer known to be compatible with that version. But, I don't see anything like that in 1809, so... I find it to be more stable. |
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On 2/7/2019 7:58 AM, The Man in the High Castle wrote:
Neil wrote: On 2/6/2019 6:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote: Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. My Win10s are still on 1803. As I see it, they work reliably and as a result I also can work. If a newer version such as 1904 brings something to the table that I can't do without, I'd get a computer known to be compatible with that version. But, I don't see anything like that in 1809, so... I find it to be more stable. More stable than what? Given the exponentially wide range of hardware, firmware and system configurations I doubt that there is a general stability factor between any one Win10 version and all of them. -- best regards, Neil |
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In article , Neil
wrote: Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. My Win10s are still on 1803. As I see it, they work reliably and as a result I also can work. If a newer version such as 1904 brings something to the table that I can't do without, I'd get a computer known to be compatible with that version. But, I don't see anything like that in 1809, so... I find it to be more stable. More stable than what? than the version he was using before, most likely 1803. Given the exponentially wide range of hardware, firmware and system configurations I doubt that there is a general stability factor between any one Win10 version and all of them. there is, but nothing is perfect and there will always be *some* problems. overall, successive versions bring improvements, if nothing else, security patches. not upgrading puts yourself and others at risk. |
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Neil wrote:
On 2/7/2019 7:58 AM, The Man in the High Castle wrote: Neil wrote: On 2/6/2019 6:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote: Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. My Win10s are still on 1803. As I see it, they work reliably and as a result I also can work. If a newer version such as 1904 brings something to the table that I can't do without, I'd get a computer known to be compatible with that version. But, I don't see anything like that in 1809, so... I find it to be more stable. More stable than what? Than 1803, what else, hot shot? Given the exponentially wide range of hardware, firmware and system configurations I doubt that there is a general stability factor between any one Win10 version and all of them. It's more stable on my machine. |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 07:32:46 -0500, Neil
wrote: On 2/6/2019 6:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote: Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. My Win10s are still on 1803. As I see it, they work reliably and as a result I also can work. If a newer version such as 1904 brings something to the table that I can't do without, I'd get a computer known to be compatible with that version. But, I don't see anything like that in 1809, so... There are two computer here in this house: mine, a custom-built computer; and my wife's, a Dell. Both are running 1809 and neither has ever had a problem with it. |
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 06:25:24 -0500, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Yousuf Khan
wrote: Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. So far I've got one machine up to 1809. I did it manually on 2/5/19; Windows Update did not push it to me. Only the usual annoyances: network share settings were put back to defaults and a few associations switched back to modern apps from my choices. Happens almost every update. I don't understand why it's so hard for MS to just preserve my settings. Also, Epson V300 scanner drivers were removed in 1803, and this persists in 1809. You have to install them manually, and there are serious issues with them, which is probably why they're no longer included. It'll still work, but the driver can lock up your scanner to the point that you have to pull out the power jack to get it back. Two of my other machines have Windows 10 Home edition on them. Neither of them have been pushed 1809, even on a consumer update schedule. My other desktop is on 1803 and set to a business update schedule, so I don't expect 1809 to be pushed onto that until around when 1903 launches. But nothing controversial happened on the one machine I did update. It still takes too damn long, but it worked (almost) perfectly. There's no burning need for an upgrade, but I'll bet it goes fine. One notable thing broke: Network discovery for workstations in Explorer. Your computer may not show up on the network workgroup until you restart the Function Discovery Resource Publication service. Even a "delayed start" doesn't work any more. I have to do it every time I reboot. Easily fixed. I set up a script that launches at any login to restart the service. If you need to know how to do that, let me know: it can be fixed with a batch file and Task Scheduler. And hey, new stuff! 1809 has done away with the "recovery partition" (at least on the machine I upgraded), so there's that. Now it's much easier to overprovision an SSD because they don't mess with your trailing space on the drive. They've also done some nice things with apps (a sort of Device Stage like descriptive panel) in the Start menu when you use search, and they've added an updated snipping tool. Other (minor) Start menu issues that I've had have been fixed. There's probably more in the release, but that's what I noticed so far. So, thumbs up! Do it. But back up your system drives first. Do *not* rely on MS's rollback function. I've had complete failures with that, requiring a bare metal restore from backup. -- Zag West of House There is a small mailbox here. read leaflet "WELCOME TO USENET! USENET is a game of adventure, danger, and low cunning. In it you will explore some of the most amazing territory ever seen by mortals. No computer should be without it!" |
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Has anyone *not* gotten the 1809 update yet?
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:45:30 +0800, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Mr. Man-wai
Chang wrote: On 2/6/2019 7:31 PM, The Man in the High Castle wrote: So do it now. You need Windows 10 Update Assistant. You can get it he https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...hc3ushhr3kfq00 Keep a copy of build 1803's ISO. You might NOT be able to grab it again. I've got all of them, all the way back to 10240. Doesn't everybody? -- Zag West of House There is a small mailbox here. read leaflet "WELCOME TO USENET! USENET is a game of adventure, danger, and low cunning. In it you will explore some of the most amazing territory ever seen by mortals. No computer should be without it!" |
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Zaghadka wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 19:45:30 +0800, in alt.comp.os.windows-10, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: On 2/6/2019 7:31 PM, The Man in the High Castle wrote: So do it now. You need Windows 10 Update Assistant. You can get it he https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...hc3ushhr3kfq00 Keep a copy of build 1803's ISO. You might NOT be able to grab it again. I've got all of them, all the way back to 10240. Doesn't everybody? Yes, I have a set, as I always Upgrade manually. But I do have one drive with a test install on it, waiting for 1803 Turnip to turn into 1809 Coach. For once, I want to see it Upgrade without me intervening. If the automation is going to work, it'll have to work in the next month or so. And the Heidoc URL generator, can give you a URL for 10240 if you didn't get an ISO. Paul |
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Keep a copy of build 1803's ISO. You might NOT be able to grab it again. Yeah I do a daily image backup anyways. However, it looks like my system may not be compatible with this build, as soon as I began installing it, within an hour, it stopped the installation and gave me an option to revert back to the previous setup. Same here. Lenovo E531 still on Win10 1803 because 1809 wouldn't or couldn't finish the installation. |
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On 2/6/2019 6:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. I recently acquired a used Lenovo desktop that was still on 1607. It did update to 1803 when I first connected it to the Internet and finally updated to 1809 today. GrtArtiste |
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:48:51 -0500, GrtArtiste wrote:
On 2/6/2019 6:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote: Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. I recently acquired a used Lenovo desktop that was still on 1607. It did update to 1803 when I first connected it to the Internet and finally updated to 1809 today. GrtArtiste Windows has just installed the latest cumulative update on my Asus desktop. Still 1803, build 17134.590. |
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Has anyone *not* gotten the 1809 update yet?
On 2/6/2019 6:25 AM, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Obviously it's a highly controversial upgrade, maybe it's best to not ever upgrade to it, but Microsoft is already talking about the 1904 upgrade. I haven't been offered this upgrade yet. Microsoft usually doesn't allow an upgrade between two non-adjacent versions. Just concerned that I may get stuck on 1803 forever, or I'm going to be offered the 1809 just weeks before 1904 is offered to me, and I'd have to go through two major upgrades soon after each other. Another update, Microsoft just all of a sudden made 1809 available to me through the normal update procedures, and it installed it without any problems (much to my surprise)! I don't know why when it did it through the Update process it worked, but didn't work when I tried it through manual update process? |
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