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Is there a program which will take audio bluetooth transmissions and
play them through a PC's speakers? Like from a cell phone? This is about win7 and win10, so posted both places. My android phone has a couple radio apps that are better** than any PC programs I've paired my phone with my win10 desktop and I've been trying to pair my phone with my win7 laptop, and I want to take the sound that comes out of the phone apps and play them through the better, louder speakers of the PC. (Better and louder than the phone) Just like I do with the car. But "everyone" does this with a car and for the most part, people don't do this with a phone and a PC, laptop or desktop. Is there a PC program that will accept bluetooth transmission and play them. Or a program that willl accept bluetooth transmissions and make them appear to be coming from a CD drive. For example, VLC has a lot of possible inputs, including Open Media: File, Disk**, Network, Capture Device. It has playing, streaming, converting, and queuing. Streaming would work if I could make it point to the bluetooth (or a usb cable??, but USB cables don't play audio from phones do they, only files as files.) **Including Blu-Ray, which for a second I thought was Bluetooth. **Only marginally better than RadioMaximus but still better in a couple little ways, and as I'm learnign to how to play exactly what I want in the car, I'd like to be able to play things the same way at home. |
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micky wrote:
Is there a program which will take audio bluetooth transmissions and play them through a PC's speakers? Like from a cell phone? This is about win7 and win10, so posted both places. My android phone has a couple radio apps that are better** than any PC programs I've paired my phone with my win10 desktop and I've been trying to pair my phone with my win7 laptop, and I want to take the sound that comes out of the phone apps and play them through the better, louder speakers of the PC. (Better and louder than the phone) Just like I do with the car. But "everyone" does this with a car and for the most part, people don't do this with a phone and a PC, laptop or desktop. Is there a PC program that will accept bluetooth transmission and play them. Or a program that willl accept bluetooth transmissions and make them appear to be coming from a CD drive. For example, VLC has a lot of possible inputs, including Open Media: File, Disk**, Network, Capture Device. It has playing, streaming, converting, and queuing. Streaming would work if I could make it point to the bluetooth (or a usb cable??, but USB cables don't play audio from phones do they, only files as files.) **Including Blu-Ray, which for a second I thought was Bluetooth. **Only marginally better than RadioMaximus but still better in a couple little ways, and as I'm learnign to how to play exactly what I want in the car, I'd like to be able to play things the same way at home. Here is one concept. But, it's a swing-and-a-miss, because it uses a 15 hour battery. They could have put a Bluetooth Receiver and a USB audio chip in the same dongle, and had the audio signal show up as a "second sound card". Or, they could have used a USB connector just for USB power, to power the Bluetooth secdion while it makes audio over the 1/8" inch stereo input. https://thewirecutter.com/reviews/be...phone-adapter/ OK, this comes closest to not being a battery nuisance. It uses USB for power, and the audio comes out of the jack. Plug the jack into your LineIn on the PC, and then play through. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIAJKD8M95267 Picture as proof it's a good wiring combo. https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductI...9999779637.jpg Here is another. This demonstrates how "bashful" the sellers are, in that they refuse to show enough pictures to verify the connectors. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIAHBU8SA8804 All the sellers are Chinese. I can't find an item which is "available for delivery tomorrow". My tuned search term was: Bluetooth car Music Receiver as other attempts turned up mostly varied rubbish. You'll still get the battery powered ones, if you use that as a search term. As long as the battery only contains one cell, and can "run flat", I suppose you wouldn't care. It's the battery solutions with multiple cells, you have to use them frequently to maintain proper battery state. A state you can't monitor! With a one cell Li battery, there is no danger and nothing to watch. But the single-cell battery in my Digital Camera has gone bad, so they're not all sweetness and light either. That's why I searched specifically for a solution using USB power. ******* The chances of finding a "Bluetooth Audio Sink" profile for Windows are likely to be slim. I wouldn't bet on a software solution being available. And since the sellers of the above gubbins are Chinese, you'll have to wait a while for the item to ship. If a stereo store had one: 1) It would be bigger. 2) It would cost at least $100. 3) It would be available. Paul |
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In article , NONONOmisc07
@bigfoot.com says... Is there a program which will take audio bluetooth transmissions and play them through a PC's speakers? Like from a cell phone? This is about win7 and win10, so posted both places. My android phone has a couple radio apps that are better** than any PC programs I've paired my phone with my win10 desktop and I've been trying to pair my phone with my win7 laptop, and I want to take the sound that comes out of the phone apps and play them through the better, louder speakers of the PC. (Better and louder than the phone) Just like I do with the car. But "everyone" does this with a car and for the most part, people don't do this with a phone and a PC, laptop or desktop. Is there a PC program that will accept bluetooth transmission and play them. Or a program that willl accept bluetooth transmissions and make them appear to be coming from a CD drive. For example, VLC has a lot of possible inputs, including Open Media: File, Disk**, Network, Capture Device. It has playing, streaming, converting, and queuing. Streaming would work if I could make it point to the bluetooth (or a usb cable??, but USB cables don't play audio from phones do they, only files as files.) **Including Blu-Ray, which for a second I thought was Bluetooth. **Only marginally better than RadioMaximus but still better in a couple little ways, and as I'm learnign to how to play exactly what I want in the car, I'd like to be able to play things the same way at home. You could take your ausio out headphone connection on the phone and run it into the line in connection on the pc. Then just simply listen to line in on pc. That's assuming phone has a headphone jack in it. |
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In message , pjp
writes: [] You could take your ausio out headphone connection on the phone and run it into the line in connection on the pc. Then just simply listen to line in on pc. That's assuming phone has a headphone jack in it. Yes, the simplest solution is often reasonable! It's not just assuming the 'phone has a headphone output, though: it's also assuming the PC has a stereo line in. Most desktop machines will (blue socket), but most laptops will only have a microphone socket (pink) - which is often mono. (It may be a three-pole connector, but that can be just the output bias voltage for electret microphones, not a stereo input.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn. |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 9 Mar 2019 19:15:21 -0400, pjp
wrote: In article , NONONOmisc07 says... Is there a program which will take audio bluetooth transmissions and play them through a PC's speakers? Like from a cell phone? This is about win7 and win10, so posted both places. My android phone has a couple radio apps that are better** than any PC programs I've paired my phone with my win10 desktop and I've been trying to pair my phone with my win7 laptop, and I want to take the sound that comes out of the phone apps and play them through the better, louder speakers of the PC. (Better and louder than the phone) Just like I do with the car. But "everyone" does this with a car and for the most part, people don't do this with a phone and a PC, laptop or desktop. Is there a PC program that will accept bluetooth transmission and play them. Or a program that willl accept bluetooth transmissions and make them appear to be coming from a CD drive. For example, VLC has a lot of possible inputs, including Open Media: File, Disk**, Network, Capture Device. It has playing, streaming, converting, and queuing. Streaming would work if I could make it point to the bluetooth (or a usb cable??, but USB cables don't play audio from phones do they, only files as files.) **Including Blu-Ray, which for a second I thought was Bluetooth. **Only marginally better than RadioMaximus but still better in a couple little ways, and as I'm learnign to how to play exactly what I want in the car, I'd like to be able to play things the same way at home. You could take your ausio out headphone connection on the phone and run it into the line in connection on the pc. Then just simply listen to line in on pc. That's assuming phone has a headphone jack in it. Wow. That's so obvious, now that you said it. The cable is in the car so I can't check it now. I don't know that I have line-in. I have microphone-in. That will probably be good enough? Yes, I do have a headphone jack. Like on all good phones. In fact, in the car before I tried bluetooth I was using the cable to the AUX input of the car radio and it worked for 2 or 3 days (rental car while traveling) and then it stopped. Now I hear a low sort-of rumbling noise, even when I turn the car radio all the way up. My roommate is going to lend me another cable, atlhough a simple MP3 player continued to work fine with the AUX port. Who knows, maybe it's the cable anyhow. (I had trouble pairing the phone with the car (even though I'd paired it with my PC at home and two in the ear speakers.) The word Mazda was supposed to show up on the list but didnt'. I finally got it. ) |
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In article , micky
wrote: You could take your ausio out headphone connection on the phone and run it into the line in connection on the pc. Then just simply listen to line in on pc. That's assuming phone has a headphone jack in it. Wow. That's so obvious, now that you said it. The cable is in the car so I can't check it now. I don't know that I have line-in. I have microphone-in. That will probably be good enough? no. line level is higher. it *might* work if you keep the volume low so it doesn't overload anything. |
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micky wrote:
Wow. That's so obvious, now that you said it. The cable is in the car so I can't check it now. I don't know that I have line-in. I have microphone-in. That will probably be good enough? Yes, I do have a headphone jack. Like on all good phones. In fact, in the car before I tried bluetooth I was using the cable to the AUX input of the car radio and it worked for 2 or 3 days (rental car while traveling) and then it stopped. Now I hear a low sort-of rumbling noise, even when I turn the car radio all the way up. My roommate is going to lend me another cable, atlhough a simple MP3 player continued to work fine with the AUX port. Who knows, maybe it's the cable anyhow. (I had trouble pairing the phone with the car (even though I'd paired it with my PC at home and two in the ear speakers.) The word Mazda was supposed to show up on the list but didnt'. I finally got it. ) Well, you don't want to try it with Bluetooth, that's for sure. I got Windows 8.1 to show signs it could do a sink, using the Widcomm stack that comes with my Broadcom BT4 dongle. But, once the item is inside "Playback Devices" in Win81, it stays grayed out. On the Win10 side (which uses the Microsoft stack), I couldn't even get any evidence at all, it supports A2DP source (to pair with A2DP sink on the Win8.1 machine). The devices paired. They showed the six digit pass codes on each PC. But nothing profile-related seemed to work. I replaced Win10 with Ubuntu, and tried again, and Ubuntu wouldn't even show audio output over Bluetooth as an option. And for extra joy, the Win81 side stopped showing audio sink as an option while connected to Ubuntu. So all the Bluetooth garbage hardware has gone back into respective boxes. It doesn't seem to be permissions. As long as this stuff doesn't provide logs, we'll never know. Paul |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 09 Mar 2019 23:21:04 -0500, Paul
wrote: So all the Bluetooth garbage hardware has gone back into respective boxes. It doesn't seem to be permissions. As long as this stuff doesn't provide logs, we'll never know. This is on a need-to-know basis. Unless you have DoD Top Secret clearance, you don't need to know. Paul |
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nospam wrote in
: In article , micky wrote: You could take your ausio out headphone connection on the phone and run it into the line in connection on the pc. Then just simply listen to line in on pc. That's assuming phone has a headphone jack in it. Wow. That's so obvious, now that you said it. The cable is in the car so I can't check it now. I don't know that I have line-in. I have microphone-in. That will probably be good enough? no. line level is higher. it *might* work if you keep the volume low so it doesn't overload anything. If your PC has a line in, it is usually only on the back I/O panel. It should be the light blue connector. Even with using line in you should start with the volume on the phone turned down, then find a good setting for your phone output that doesn't require turning up the volume on the PC too far, while not causing distortion due to too large of a line input. |
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In alt.windows7.general, on Sun, 10 Mar 2019 01:33:34 +0200, micky
wrote: In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 9 Mar 2019 19:15:21 -0400, pjp wrote: In article , NONONOmisc07 says... Is there a program which will take audio bluetooth transmissions and play them through a PC's speakers? Like from a cell phone? This is about win7 and win10, so posted both places. ...... You could take your ausio out headphone connection on the phone and run it into the line in connection on the pc. Then just simply listen to line in on pc. That's assuming phone has a headphone jack in it. Wow. That's so obvious, now that you said it. The cable is in the car so I can't check it now. I don't know that I have line-in. I have microphone-in. That will probably be good enough? Well, playing a little MP3 player this way, plugged into the microphone jack, works fine. Using the headphone jack gives me the same sort of problem I had when trying to use the AUX jack in the car (Even though that worked just fine the first 2 or 3 days I had the car). With the PC, when watching the mike inputs, the green bars increase in a regular pattern, every couple seconds, and then go down to zero. And the sound coming out of the speaker is just like those bars. No music, no talk, just thudding. OTOH, plugging headphones into the headphone jack works just fine. So is there a problem with the headphone jack or not? The phone knows what is plugged into the jack, and for some reason it doesn't like the AUX cable (or what is at the other end) even though it's happy with the headphones. This seems to mean I have go back to making bluetooth work. It worked for that guy in the link, who couldn't get it to work in win10 but did in win7. Yes, I do have a headphone jack. Like on all good phones. In fact, in the car before I tried bluetooth I was using the cable to the AUX input of the car radio and it worked for 2 or 3 days (rental car while traveling) and then it stopped. Now I hear a low sort-of rumbling noise, even when I turn the car radio all the way up. This is what I am talking about above. My roommate is going to lend me another cable, I cancelled that, but maybe I shoudln't have. atlhough a simple MP3 player continued to work fine with the AUX port. Who knows, maybe it's the cable anyhow. (I had trouble pairing the phone with the car (even though I'd paired it with my PC at home and two in the ear speakers.) The word Mazda was supposed to show up on the list but didnt'. I finally got it. ) Yesterday it reconnected easily. I guess the first time is the hardest. |
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On 11/03/2019 11:33, micky wrote:
In alt.windows7.general, on Sun, 10 Mar 2019 01:33:34 +0200, micky wrote: In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 9 Mar 2019 19:15:21 -0400, pjp wrote: In article , NONONOmisc07 @bigfoot.com says... Is there a program which will take audio bluetooth transmissions and play them through a PC's speakers? Like from a cell phone? This is about win7 and win10, so posted both places. ISTR that when I finally managed to pair my phone with a W7 PC, there was an option to do something like that. Well, playing a little MP3 player this way, plugged into the microphone jack, works fine. Er, clarification, do you mean a separate hardware mp3 device, or an mp3 player program running on your cell phone? For the moment I presume the former. Using the headphone jack gives me the same sort of problem I had when trying to use the AUX jack in the car (Even though that worked just fine the first 2 or 3 days I had the car). With the PC, when watching the mike inputs, the green bars increase in a regular pattern, every couple seconds, and then go down to zero. And the sound coming out of the speaker is just like those bars. No music, no talk, just thudding. OTOH, plugging headphones into the headphone jack works just fine. So is there a problem with the headphone jack or not? The phone knows what is plugged into the jack, and for some reason it doesn't like the AUX cable (or what is at the other end) even though it's happy with the headphones. I suspect that there are possibly two interrelated problems here ... 1) As you suggest, the phone tries to sense what is attached to the headphone socket - remember that some selfie-sticks plug into the same socket. Also it may try to control the audio output level, to protect the ears of someone using earbuds or headphones. 2) The PC may be trying to set the recording level on the mic jack automatically, or, even worse, it too might be auto-sensing what is plugged into it and changing settings erroneously as a result. The fact that both devices are trying to be too smart-arse and thereby each undoing the work of the other may be what's causing your problem. As the PC is probably easiest to control, I suggest that you start there. Many PCs launch a sound-card related control app on bootup or login, but usually even those that don't install a Control Panel app to control the hardware settings on the sound-card. Look for such in your CP, it may be an extra tab on the normal W7 Sound CP app rather than a seperate app, and see if you can't disable auto-sensing and have the mic input fixed as mic, or even better, line-in. Also look for evidence of an automatic recording control, try launching the mixer if you can't see it elsewhere, and see if you can disable it, and whether that helps. This seems to mean I have go back to making bluetooth work. It worked for that guy in the link, who couldn't get it to work in win10 but did in win7. See above, I've just paired the tablet to the Dell Inspiron again, and one of the services offered is 'Play Music', and now I have a Bluetooth playback control bar on my Inspiron's Taskbar. However, in my case, all the music is on the PC anyway, I have none at all on the tablet, so can't test it meaningfully. Yesterday it reconnected easily. I guess the first time is the hardest. 'The first cut is the deepest' |
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In message , micky
writes: [] Using the headphone jack gives me the same sort of problem I had when [] OTOH, plugging headphones into the headphone jack works just fine. So is there a problem with the headphone jack or not? The phone knows what is plugged into the jack, and for some reason it doesn't like the AUX cable (or what is at the other end) even though it's happy with the headphones. This seems to mean I have go back to making bluetooth work. It worked Or, use a splitter with real headphones (or a resistive load) on the other arm, so the 'phone _does_ think it is driving 'phones. [] Yesterday it reconnected easily. I guess the first time is the hardest. I think that's for other newsgroups ... (-: -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Who were your favourite TV stars or shows when you were a child? Sadly they've all been arrested ... Ian Hislop, in Radio Times 28 September-4 October 2013 |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:09:15 +0000, Java Jive
wrote: On 11/03/2019 11:33, micky wrote: In alt.windows7.general, on Sun, 10 Mar 2019 01:33:34 +0200, micky wrote: In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 9 Mar 2019 19:15:21 -0400, pjp wrote: In article , NONONOmisc07 @bigfoot.com says... Is there a program which will take audio bluetooth transmissions and play them through a PC's speakers? Like from a cell phone? This is about win7 and win10, so posted both places. ISTR that when I finally managed to pair my phone with a W7 PC, there was an option to do something like that. Well, playing a little MP3 player this way, plugged into the microphone jack, works fine. All I had to do was make the input jack for the microphone the default recording device, which I think it already was. And make my USB laptop speakers the default playback device, which they already were. Hard to believe this woudln't work on wiln10, but I don't have that with me. Er, clarification, do you mean a separate hardware mp3 device, or an mp3 player program running on your cell phone? For the moment I presume the former. Yes, the former, a separate little rectangular thing, with jacks Using the headphone jack gives me the same sort of problem I had when trying to use the AUX jack in the car (Even though that worked just fine the first 2 or 3 days I had the car). With the PC, when watching the mike inputs, the green bars increase in a regular pattern, every couple seconds, and then go down to zero. And the sound coming out of the speaker is just like those bars. No music, no talk, just thudding. OTOH, plugging headphones into the headphone jack works just fine. So is there a problem with the headphone jack or not? The phone knows what is plugged into the jack, and for some reason it doesn't like the AUX cable (or what is at the other end) even though it's happy with the headphones. I suspect that there are possibly two interrelated problems here ... 1) As you suggest, the phone tries to sense what is attached to the headphone socket - remember that some selfie-sticks plug into the same socket. I didnt' have any idea about that until it was indirectly referred to here yesterday. Also it may try to control the audio output level, to protect the ears of someone using earbuds or headphones. Actually I think when the headphones were used I got a warning, but I could still increase the volume after the warning. It was not loud. 2) The PC may be trying to set the recording level on the mic jack automatically, or, even worse, it too might be auto-sensing what is plugged into it and changing settings erroneously as a result. The fact that both devices are trying to be too smart-arse and thereby each undoing the work of the other may be what's causing your problem. Too clever by half. The American saying. As the PC is probably easiest to control, I suggest that you start there. Many PCs launch a sound-card related control app on bootup or For some other computer I had an add-on sound controller t hat had dozens of settings and gauges. But I don't remember how I got it and the spec for this audio card only says Sound Devices USB Audio Device High Definition Audio Device High Definition Audio Device Not a lot of help there. login, but usually even those that don't install a Control Panel app to control the hardware settings on the sound-card. Look for such in your CP, it may be an extra tab on the normal W7 Sound CP app rather than a seperate app, and see if you can't disable auto-sensing and have the mic input fixed as mic, or even better, line-in. Also look for evidence of an automatic recording control, try launching the mixer if you can't see it elsewhere, and see if you can disable it, and whether that helps. I haven't found anything but I went to the Dell support page and there is an audio driver from May 20, 2016, quite It is going to install High Definition (they always say that) Audio Device Driver 6.10.0.6227. Currently I have 6.1.7601.17514 That's quite a difference, maybe. Interestingly, after downloading 20 megs to start, it still says it may take several minutes to install and it has taken that about 2 minutes. Ihave to restart windows to see the effect and I can't do that now, so I'll get back to you. This seems to mean I have go back to making bluetooth work. It worked for that guy in the link, who couldn't get it to work in win10 but did in win7. See above, I've just paired the tablet to the Dell Inspiron again, and one of the services offered is 'Play Music', and now I have a Bluetooth playback control bar on my Inspiron's Taskbar. However, in my case, all the music is on the PC anyway, I have none at all on the tablet, so can't test it meaningfully. Right. Yesterday it reconnected easily. I guess the first time is the hardest. 'The first cut is the deepest' |
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Sorry, terrible potential ambiguity ...
On 11/03/2019 12:09, Java Jive wrote: As the PC is probably easiest to control, I suggest that you start there.Â* Many PCs launch a sound-card related control app on bootup or login, but usually Comma even those that don't Comma install a Control Panel app In other words, to configure the hardware, even those that don't install some sort of control app in the System Tray usually give you something in the Control Panel. |
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