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On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 10:22:54 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: The DVD-R's have arrived and now that we have the other problem resolved we can go ahead. I forgot exactly where we were on this so have to re-read it. I'll my monthly Mrimg and make a restore point now that everything is working again. Robert Just remember you'll be installing on a *spare* drive placed in the computer, to protect the *original* or *good* drive. If the COA sticker has a 25-character key on it (five groups of five), you can install on the spare while the spare is empty. And type in the key when prompted. You can clone the original drive to the spare drive, for cases where the COA sticker doesn't have a license key on it. The MediaCreationTool1903 can take care of most of your needs, and if you're patient, I think it offers to burn the DVD near the end. You select the option to "make media for another computer", to be able to make a DVD. The download prepared by the MediaCreationTool1903 is 3,967,483,904 bytes ( Win10 64bit mediacreation 1903 7OSes iso file ) The disc would include Windows 10 Home and Windows 10 Pro, as well as five other versions. Windows 7 Pro can be promoted to Windows 10 Pro, as to how the choices work. You are preparing a DVD for this, because Windows 7 lacks an ISO mounter of its own. On later OSes, you can instead use a "mount" command to make a virtual DVD drive with the install materials on it. But Win7 is a bit backward, and doesn't have that feature. You don't generally use third-party ISO mounters for that, because they "confuse" DVD writer programs. I had one once and had to remove it, because of that behavior. HTH, Paul Just one question before we start,. does the drive were going to be using have to be formatted? I have spare formatted drives for the 8500 and 780 and a spare un-formatted drive that's never been out of the box which is the one I was going to use for this. However if it has to be formatted we would have to clone it wouldn't we before starting to get the Win 10 key? Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
Just one question before we start,. does the drive were going to be using have to be formatted? I have spare formatted drives for the 8500 and 780 and a spare un-formatted drive that's never been out of the box which is the one I was going to use for this. However if it has to be formatted we would have to clone it wouldn't we before starting to get the Win 10 key? Robert If the XPS 8500 has a 25-character license key on it VVVVV-WWWWW-XXXXX-YYYYY-ZZZZZ you can start with a completely empty spare drive and install to it. When prompted for the key, type in the license key (which is separated into five, five character chunks). If the key is accepted, then carry on with the installation. ******* The 780, I don't know if that will have a key on the COA. The Refurbisher version of Windows 7 Pro, I don't really know what amenities are included with that. If there is no key, you can try cloning the original drive, over top of the spare (thus erasing whatever was on the spare). Then, you'll be starting with the Win7 SP1 x64 that was on the 780, as your base. When it asks for the key, you say "I don't have a key", and continue with the install. If later, it says it is activated, then the job is done for that one. ******* The XPS 8500 might be the easiest one to test. Paul |
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On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: Just one question before we start,. does the drive were going to be using have to be formatted? I have spare formatted drives for the 8500 and 780 and a spare un-formatted drive that's never been out of the box which is the one I was going to use for this. However if it has to be formatted we would have to clone it wouldn't we before starting to get the Win 10 key? Robert If the XPS 8500 has a 25-character license key on it VVVVV-WWWWW-XXXXX-YYYYY-ZZZZZ you can start with a completely empty spare drive and install to it. When prompted for the key, type in the license key (which is separated into five, five character chunks). If the key is accepted, then carry on with the installation. ******* The 780, I don't know if that will have a key on the COA. The Refurbisher version of Windows 7 Pro, I don't really know what amenities are included with that. If there is no key, you can try cloning the original drive, over top of the spare (thus erasing whatever was on the spare). Then, you'll be starting with the Win7 SP1 x64 that was on the 780, as your base. When it asks for the key, you say "I don't have a key", and continue with the install. If later, it says it is activated, then the job is done for that one. ******* The XPS 8500 might be the easiest one to test. Paul The 8500 has a product key the 780 has one but it written no longer valid and below that is a GLF sticker with a product key. Robert |
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On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 2:03:41 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Just one question before we start,. does the drive were going to be using have to be formatted? I have spare formatted drives for the 8500 and 780 and a spare un-formatted drive that's never been out of the box which is the one I was going to use for this. However if it has to be formatted we would have to clone it wouldn't we before starting to get the Win 10 key? Robert If the XPS 8500 has a 25-character license key on it VVVVV-WWWWW-XXXXX-YYYYY-ZZZZZ you can start with a completely empty spare drive and install to it. When prompted for the key, type in the license key (which is separated into five, five character chunks). If the key is accepted, then carry on with the installation. ******* The 780, I don't know if that will have a key on the COA. The Refurbisher version of Windows 7 Pro, I don't really know what amenities are included with that. If there is no key, you can try cloning the original drive, over top of the spare (thus erasing whatever was on the spare). Then, you'll be starting with the Win7 SP1 x64 that was on the 780, as your base. When it asks for the key, you say "I don't have a key", and continue with the install. If later, it says it is activated, then the job is done for that one. ******* The XPS 8500 might be the easiest one to test. Paul The 8500 has a product key the 780 has one but it written no longer valid and below that is a GLF sticker with a product key. Robert So we can disconnect the main HD and use the secondary cable connections for the empty HD and then use the license key from the 8500 to install it and will follow your instructions from there. Whenever you wish to start,.... I'll install the empty HD and disconnect the main HD etc. btw,.. how long will this take? Thanks Robert |
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On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 3:11:48 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 2:03:41 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 1:04:51 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Just one question before we start,. does the drive were going to be using have to be formatted? I have spare formatted drives for the 8500 and 780 and a spare un-formatted drive that's never been out of the box which is the one I was going to use for this. However if it has to be formatted we would have to clone it wouldn't we before starting to get the Win 10 key? Robert If the XPS 8500 has a 25-character license key on it VVVVV-WWWWW-XXXXX-YYYYY-ZZZZZ you can start with a completely empty spare drive and install to it. When prompted for the key, type in the license key (which is separated into five, five character chunks). If the key is accepted, then carry on with the installation. ******* The 780, I don't know if that will have a key on the COA. The Refurbisher version of Windows 7 Pro, I don't really know what amenities are included with that. If there is no key, you can try cloning the original drive, over top of the spare (thus erasing whatever was on the spare). Then, you'll be starting with the Win7 SP1 x64 that was on the 780, as your base. When it asks for the key, you say "I don't have a key", and continue with the install. If later, it says it is activated, then the job is done for that one. ******* The XPS 8500 might be the easiest one to test. Paul The 8500 has a product key the 780 has one but it written no longer valid and below that is a GLF sticker with a product key. Robert So we can disconnect the main HD and use the secondary cable connections for the empty HD and then use the license key from the 8500 to install it and will follow your instructions from there. Whenever you wish to start,.... I'll install the empty HD and disconnect the main HD etc. btw,.. how long will this take? Thanks Robert Just re-reading some of your earlier posts,.. and there's allot to this,.we better start from the beginning on this and take it step by step. Robert |
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Just re-reading some of your earlier posts,.. and there's allot to this,.we better start from the beginning on this and take it step by step. Robert Go here and get the "MediaCreationTool1903.exe". https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 There's a download button, to get the stub downloader that fetches the DVD for you. https://i.postimg.cc/B62cj5Sp/Media-Creation-Tool.gif It will likely want to run as Administrator. Since you have two machines to do, it's better to "create media for another computer" when asked. It will create an ISO file (worth keeping). It will also offer to burn the disc using the Windows IMAPI2 interface. It will offer that option only after the download is complete. It isn't as up-front about that as it could be. The burning would work if you have DVD+R or DVD-R without a problem. The Windows burner doesn't seem to know how to format the rewriteable media types, which is the only problem I've had with it. Once you have the media, then you have materials to work with. It might take an hour or two for the download, maybe 15 minutes for a burn and verify. Then on the XPS 8500, you can try entering the key when the installer prompts for it. ******* Both of your machines are Windows 7 SP1 Pro x64 as far as I know. Control Panels : System can help verify that. The download page will ask what you want, and you want an x64 disc. I don't think any 32 bit OSes are involved here. And when installing, if any selection is offered, you match the Pro part, if you have Pro or Professional. Win7 Home Premium = Win10 Home Win7 Professional = Win10 Pro Win7 Ultimate = Win10 Pro When running the DVD on the XPS 8500 with blank Spare drive inside, the installer will take care of the partitions. I usually use "Custom" when doing installs and select whatever I had in mind, but the automation in this case would be good enough. It should present the only disk in the computer (the blank one) as a target. It will summarize what it is about to do, before the actual install starts. Early on, it may prompt for a license key. That's your opportunity to enter one. The copy-files stage of the install could take an hour, while the multiple-reboots phase might take 15-20 minutes or so. The version of Windows 10 now, puts more time into the copy-files, and less time doing the install once all the files are on the hard drive. Note: You can prepare the DVD on either the 8500 or 780, doesn't matter, because it doesn't know what your plan is when "making media for another computer". As long as the 780 and 8500 have a working DVD burner, either machine would do for that step. HTH, Paul |
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On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 7:24:08 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: Just re-reading some of your earlier posts,.. and there's allot to this,.we better start from the beginning on this and take it step by step. Robert Go here and get the "MediaCreationTool1903.exe". https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 There's a download button, to get the stub downloader that fetches the DVD for you. https://i.postimg.cc/B62cj5Sp/Media-Creation-Tool.gif It will likely want to run as Administrator. Since you have two machines to do, it's better to "create media for another computer" when asked. It will create an ISO file (worth keeping). It will also offer to burn the disc using the Windows IMAPI2 interface. It will offer that option only after the download is complete. It isn't as up-front about that as it could be. The burning would work if you have DVD+R or DVD-R without a problem. The Windows burner doesn't seem to know how to format the rewriteable media types, which is the only problem I've had with it. Once you have the media, then you have materials to work with. It might take an hour or two for the download, maybe 15 minutes for a burn and verify. Then on the XPS 8500, you can try entering the key when the installer prompts for it. ******* Both of your machines are Windows 7 SP1 Pro x64 as far as I know. Control Panels : System can help verify that. The download page will ask what you want, and you want an x64 disc. I don't think any 32 bit OSes are involved here. And when installing, if any selection is offered, you match the Pro part, if you have Pro or Professional. Win7 Home Premium = Win10 Home Win7 Professional = Win10 Pro Win7 Ultimate = Win10 Pro When running the DVD on the XPS 8500 with blank Spare drive inside, the installer will take care of the partitions. I usually use "Custom" when doing installs and select whatever I had in mind, but the automation in this case would be good enough. It should present the only disk in the computer (the blank one) as a target. It will summarize what it is about to do, before the actual install starts. Early on, it may prompt for a license key. That's your opportunity to enter one. The copy-files stage of the install could take an hour, while the multiple-reboots phase might take 15-20 minutes or so. The version of Windows 10 now, puts more time into the copy-files, and less time doing the install once all the files are on the hard drive. Note: You can prepare the DVD on either the 8500 or 780, doesn't matter, because it doesn't know what your plan is when "making media for another computer". As long as the 780 and 8500 have a working DVD burner, either machine would do for that step. HTH, Paul It might take an hour or two for the download, maybe 15 minutes for a burn and verify. Then on the XPS 8500, you can try entering the key when the installer prompts for it. I'm not following this now am I installing Windows10 on my 8500 after I burn the DVD-R by entering the product key? At what point am I installing the blank drive and disconnecting the main HD? I started the process up to this point: http://i68.tinypic.com/2vt5vrt.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/168xzb5.jpg In passing, the DVD-R's look like miniature movie reels and have an area already provided for labeling on the disc (although we don't do that). Robert |
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Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 7:24:08 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Just re-reading some of your earlier posts,.. and there's allot to this,.we better start from the beginning on this and take it step by step. Robert Go here and get the "MediaCreationTool1903.exe". https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 There's a download button, to get the stub downloader that fetches the DVD for you. https://i.postimg.cc/B62cj5Sp/Media-Creation-Tool.gif It will likely want to run as Administrator. Since you have two machines to do, it's better to "create media for another computer" when asked. It will create an ISO file (worth keeping). It will also offer to burn the disc using the Windows IMAPI2 interface. It will offer that option only after the download is complete. It isn't as up-front about that as it could be. The burning would work if you have DVD+R or DVD-R without a problem. The Windows burner doesn't seem to know how to format the rewriteable media types, which is the only problem I've had with it. Once you have the media, then you have materials to work with. It might take an hour or two for the download, maybe 15 minutes for a burn and verify. Then on the XPS 8500, you can try entering the key when the installer prompts for it. ******* Both of your machines are Windows 7 SP1 Pro x64 as far as I know. Control Panels : System can help verify that. The download page will ask what you want, and you want an x64 disc. I don't think any 32 bit OSes are involved here. And when installing, if any selection is offered, you match the Pro part, if you have Pro or Professional. Win7 Home Premium = Win10 Home Win7 Professional = Win10 Pro Win7 Ultimate = Win10 Pro When running the DVD on the XPS 8500 with blank Spare drive inside, the installer will take care of the partitions. I usually use "Custom" when doing installs and select whatever I had in mind, but the automation in this case would be good enough. It should present the only disk in the computer (the blank one) as a target. It will summarize what it is about to do, before the actual install starts. Early on, it may prompt for a license key. That's your opportunity to enter one. The copy-files stage of the install could take an hour, while the multiple-reboots phase might take 15-20 minutes or so. The version of Windows 10 now, puts more time into the copy-files, and less time doing the install once all the files are on the hard drive. Note: You can prepare the DVD on either the 8500 or 780, doesn't matter, because it doesn't know what your plan is when "making media for another computer". As long as the 780 and 8500 have a working DVD burner, either machine would do for that step. HTH, Paul It might take an hour or two for the download, maybe 15 minutes for a burn and verify. Then on the XPS 8500, you can try entering the key when the installer prompts for it. I'm not following this now am I installing Windows10 on my 8500 after I burn the DVD-R by entering the product key? At what point am I installing the blank drive and disconnecting the main HD? I started the process up to this point: http://i68.tinypic.com/2vt5vrt.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/168xzb5.jpg In passing, the DVD-R's look like miniature movie reels and have an area already provided for labeling on the disc (although we don't do that). Robert You have two computers. You can do the steps out of order. The logical order would be: 1) Download MediaCreationTool1903.exe 2) Execute MediaCreationTool1903.exe 3) "Prepare media for another computer". 4) It'll download 3.5GB of stuff for the ISO file. 5) Have it burn the DVD-R when the download step is finished. 6) Place Spare drive in 8500, remove original drive. 7) Boot the DVD-R. 8) Do a Clean Install on the empty Spare drive. 9) A couple of screens into the install process, it will ask for a license key. 10) Enter the key. 11) Finish the install of Windows 10. 12) Verify it is activated. 13) Put original drive back in the 8500. HTH, Paul |
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writes: [] You have two computers. Both with an authorised/activated/whatever Windows 7 on them. You can do the steps out of order. The logical order would be: 1) Download MediaCreationTool1903.exe 2) Execute MediaCreationTool1903.exe 3) "Prepare media for another computer". 4) It'll download 3.5GB of stuff for the ISO file. 5) Have it burn the DVD-R when the download step is finished. 6) Place Spare drive in 8500, remove original drive. At that point, the 8500 contains no trace of Windows 7 ... 7) Boot the DVD-R. 8) Do a Clean Install on the empty Spare drive. 9) A couple of screens into the install process, it will ask for a license key. 10) Enter the key. 11) Finish the install of Windows 10. 12) Verify it is activated. .... so how does the Microsoft server know that it had a whatevered 7? 13) Put original drive back in the 8500. Then presumably repeat 6-13 for his other (7xx?) computer? HTH, Paul -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf resentment is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die - attributed to Carrie Fisher by Gareth McLean, in Radio Times 28 January-3 February 2012 |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul writes: [] You have two computers. Both with an authorised/activated/whatever Windows 7 on them. You can do the steps out of order. The logical order would be: 1) Download MediaCreationTool1903.exe 2) Execute MediaCreationTool1903.exe 3) "Prepare media for another computer". 4) It'll download 3.5GB of stuff for the ISO file. 5) Have it burn the DVD-R when the download step is finished. 6) Place Spare drive in 8500, remove original drive. At that point, the 8500 contains no trace of Windows 7 ... 7) Boot the DVD-R. 8) Do a Clean Install on the empty Spare drive. 9) A couple of screens into the install process, it will ask for a license key. 10) Enter the key. 11) Finish the install of Windows 10. 12) Verify it is activated. ... so how does the Microsoft server know that it had a whatevered 7? 13) Put original drive back in the 8500. Then presumably repeat 6-13 for his other (7xx?) computer? HTH, Paul AFAIK, you should be able to do a clean install and present a key and get your Digital Entitlement that way. The alternative method, is to start with a clone of your Windows 7 SP1 (which has a key internally), install Windows 10 over top of this clone, and it should get the Digital Entitlement that way. And you don't have to give an email address or create an MSA. In the lower bar, is an option to skip using an MSA and use a "local account". And that's definitely good enough for this exercise. It's better to use a "local account" during an install, get the desired home directory name, rather than the crusty "automatically generated" account name that ****es people off. You can add an MSA later and it should keep the original account name. Since this is going to be a throw away install, the details don't much matter. Some things can be learned during the install, such as the stupid questions the installer will ask, that "great" interface with the sliders, where a couple of sliders, you need to scroll to see them, all of that high comedy stuff. So later, when you're installing Windows 10 for real, you have some experience at the install process. Cortana doesn't seem to talk to me any more during installs. At one time, it managed to find the audio driver and it would start talking (until you switched it off), but a number of installs I've tried, there didn't seem to be an audio driver loaded when it was time for Cortana to talk. Which was a relief. Paul |
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On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 7:16:15 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 7:24:08 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: Just re-reading some of your earlier posts,.. and there's allot to this,.we better start from the beginning on this and take it step by step. Robert Go here and get the "MediaCreationTool1903.exe". https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10 There's a download button, to get the stub downloader that fetches the DVD for you. https://i.postimg.cc/B62cj5Sp/Media-Creation-Tool.gif It will likely want to run as Administrator. Since you have two machines to do, it's better to "create media for another computer" when asked. It will create an ISO file (worth keeping). It will also offer to burn the disc using the Windows IMAPI2 interface. It will offer that option only after the download is complete. It isn't as up-front about that as it could be. The burning would work if you have DVD+R or DVD-R without a problem. The Windows burner doesn't seem to know how to format the rewriteable media types, which is the only problem I've had with it. Once you have the media, then you have materials to work with. It might take an hour or two for the download, maybe 15 minutes for a burn and verify. Then on the XPS 8500, you can try entering the key when the installer prompts for it. ******* Both of your machines are Windows 7 SP1 Pro x64 as far as I know. Control Panels : System can help verify that. The download page will ask what you want, and you want an x64 disc. I don't think any 32 bit OSes are involved here. And when installing, if any selection is offered, you match the Pro part, if you have Pro or Professional. Win7 Home Premium = Win10 Home Win7 Professional = Win10 Pro Win7 Ultimate = Win10 Pro When running the DVD on the XPS 8500 with blank Spare drive inside, the installer will take care of the partitions. I usually use "Custom" when doing installs and select whatever I had in mind, but the automation in this case would be good enough. It should present the only disk in the computer (the blank one) as a target. It will summarize what it is about to do, before the actual install starts. Early on, it may prompt for a license key. That's your opportunity to enter one. The copy-files stage of the install could take an hour, while the multiple-reboots phase might take 15-20 minutes or so. The version of Windows 10 now, puts more time into the copy-files, and less time doing the install once all the files are on the hard drive. Note: You can prepare the DVD on either the 8500 or 780, doesn't matter, because it doesn't know what your plan is when "making media for another computer". As long as the 780 and 8500 have a working DVD burner, either machine would do for that step. HTH, Paul It might take an hour or two for the download, maybe 15 minutes for a burn and verify. Then on the XPS 8500, you can try entering the key when the installer prompts for it. I'm not following this now am I installing Windows10 on my 8500 after I burn the DVD-R by entering the product key? At what point am I installing the blank drive and disconnecting the main HD? I started the process up to this point: http://i68.tinypic.com/2vt5vrt.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/168xzb5.jpg In passing, the DVD-R's look like miniature movie reels and have an area already provided for labeling on the disc (although we don't do that). Robert You have two computers. You can do the steps out of order. The logical order would be: 1) Download MediaCreationTool1903.exe 2) Execute MediaCreationTool1903.exe 3) "Prepare media for another computer". 4) It'll download 3.5GB of stuff for the ISO file. 5) Have it burn the DVD-R when the download step is finished. 6) Place Spare drive in 8500, remove original drive. 7) Boot the DVD-R. 8) Do a Clean Install on the empty Spare drive. 9) A couple of screens into the install process, it will ask for a license key. 10) Enter the key. 11) Finish the install of Windows 10. 12) Verify it is activated. 13) Put original drive back in the 8500. HTH, Paul I tried running the media creation tool: http://i68.tinypic.com/f0dweb.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/256y7hl.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/nlzhhl.jpg http://i64.tinypic.com/33090cl.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/2eqdnaf.jpg In passing here's the DVD-R, that looks like the old style reel to reel's. Pretty cool looking I think. http://i65.tinypic.com/23vchsj.jpg Robert |
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On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 7:16:15 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: 1) Download MediaCreationTool1903.exe 2) Execute MediaCreationTool1903.exe 3) "Prepare media for another computer". 4) It'll download 3.5GB of stuff for the ISO file. 5) Have it burn the DVD-R when the download step is finished. 6) Place Spare drive in 8500, remove original drive. 7) Boot the DVD-R. 8) Do a Clean Install on the empty Spare drive. 9) A couple of screens into the install process, it will ask for a license key. 10) Enter the key. 11) Finish the install of Windows 10. 12) Verify it is activated. 13) Put original drive back in the 8500. I tried running the media creation tool: http://i68.tinypic.com/f0dweb.jpg "Create installation media..." http://i68.tinypic.com/256y7hl.jpg (Language selection etc) http://i68.tinypic.com/nlzhhl.jpg ISO file choice http://i64.tinypic.com/33090cl.jpg (windows.iso in Documents folder) http://i66.tinypic.com/2eqdnaf.jpg Errroor 0x8007139F - 0x90019 In passing here's the DVD-R, that looks like the old style reel to reel's. Pretty cool looking I think. http://i65.tinypic.com/23vchsj.jpg Robert ¡Ay, caramba! (denotes pain or surprise) I do hope you've logged in using your Administrator account. That's not what the error ( "0x8007139F - 0x90019" ) says by the way. I can't find that error. ******* We'll need help from the logfiles. These two files can be dropped onto an open copy of Notepad. https://www.winhelponline.com/blog/m...0072f76-20017/ C:\EWindows.~WS\Sources\Panther setuperr.log setupact.log You can see a representation here, if my output from MediaCreationTool1903.exe . I shut down this VM while the Win10 ISO was downloading, to "simulate an error". https://i.postimg.cc/9M43zQRp/logfiles-in-Notepad.gif The logfiles really aren't that helpful, unless by accident they blurt out the actual error! Try to collect any information you can get from there, that you feel is relevant. You don't have to do a new run yet - just have a look at the files first, before they're overwritten. Paul |
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On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote: On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 7:16:15 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: 1) Download MediaCreationTool1903.exe 2) Execute MediaCreationTool1903.exe 3) "Prepare media for another computer". 4) It'll download 3.5GB of stuff for the ISO file. 5) Have it burn the DVD-R when the download step is finished. 6) Place Spare drive in 8500, remove original drive. 7) Boot the DVD-R. 8) Do a Clean Install on the empty Spare drive. 9) A couple of screens into the install process, it will ask for a license key. 10) Enter the key. 11) Finish the install of Windows 10. 12) Verify it is activated. 13) Put original drive back in the 8500. I tried running the media creation tool: http://i68.tinypic.com/f0dweb.jpg "Create installation media..." http://i68.tinypic.com/256y7hl.jpg (Language selection etc) http://i68.tinypic.com/nlzhhl.jpg ISO file choice http://i64.tinypic.com/33090cl.jpg (windows.iso in Documents folder) http://i66.tinypic.com/2eqdnaf.jpg Errroor 0x8007139F - 0x90019 In passing here's the DVD-R, that looks like the old style reel to reel's. Pretty cool looking I think. http://i65.tinypic.com/23vchsj.jpg Robert ¡Ay, caramba! (denotes pain or surprise) I do hope you've logged in using your Administrator account. That's not what the error ( "0x8007139F - 0x90019" ) says by the way. I can't find that error. ******* We'll need help from the logfiles. These two files can be dropped onto an open copy of Notepad. https://www.winhelponline.com/blog/m...0072f76-20017/ C:\EWindows.~WS\Sources\Panther setuperr.log setupact.log You can see a representation here, if my output from MediaCreationTool1903.exe . I shut down this VM while the Win10 ISO was downloading, to "simulate an error". https://i.postimg.cc/9M43zQRp/logfiles-in-Notepad.gif The logfiles really aren't that helpful, unless by accident they blurt out the actual error! Try to collect any information you can get from there, that you feel is relevant. You don't have to do a new run yet - just have a look at the files first, before they're overwritten. Paul Yes, I was logged in as Administrator. I tried it once but got to a point where it said it required administrator account. So I switched users and logged in as Administrator. I'm not sure what you want me to do at this point? I went to the link provided but am confused what I am suppose to do? Do I run Win 10 update repair tool and then download it? I have no idea what would be relevant even if I saw it. Robert |
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Win7 support:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 4:38:49 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 7:16:15 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: 1) Download MediaCreationTool1903.exe 2) Execute MediaCreationTool1903.exe 3) "Prepare media for another computer". 4) It'll download 3.5GB of stuff for the ISO file. 5) Have it burn the DVD-R when the download step is finished. 6) Place Spare drive in 8500, remove original drive. 7) Boot the DVD-R. 8) Do a Clean Install on the empty Spare drive. 9) A couple of screens into the install process, it will ask for a license key. 10) Enter the key. 11) Finish the install of Windows 10. 12) Verify it is activated. 13) Put original drive back in the 8500. I tried running the media creation tool: http://i68.tinypic.com/f0dweb.jpg "Create installation media..." http://i68.tinypic.com/256y7hl.jpg (Language selection etc) http://i68.tinypic.com/nlzhhl.jpg ISO file choice http://i64.tinypic.com/33090cl.jpg (windows.iso in Documents folder) http://i66.tinypic.com/2eqdnaf.jpg Errroor 0x8007139F - 0x90019 In passing here's the DVD-R, that looks like the old style reel to reel's. Pretty cool looking I think. http://i65.tinypic.com/23vchsj.jpg Robert ¡Ay, caramba! (denotes pain or surprise) I do hope you've logged in using your Administrator account. That's not what the error ( "0x8007139F - 0x90019" ) says by the way. I can't find that error. ******* We'll need help from the logfiles. These two files can be dropped onto an open copy of Notepad. https://www.winhelponline.com/blog/m...0072f76-20017/ C:\EWindows.~WS\Sources\Panther setuperr.log setupact.log You can see a representation here, if my output from MediaCreationTool1903.exe . I shut down this VM while the Win10 ISO was downloading, to "simulate an error". https://i.postimg.cc/9M43zQRp/logfiles-in-Notepad.gif The logfiles really aren't that helpful, unless by accident they blurt out the actual error! Try to collect any information you can get from there, that you feel is relevant. You don't have to do a new run yet - just have a look at the files first, before they're overwritten. Paul Yes, I was logged in as Administrator. I tried it once but got to a point where it said it required administrator account. So I switched users and logged in as Administrator. I'm not sure what you want me to do at this point? I went to the link provided but am confused what I am suppose to do? Do I run Win 10 update repair tool and then download it? I have no idea what would be relevant even if I saw it. Robert In passing I ran a Smart scan on the 780 recently and it said that my Firefox was out of date along with other programs.So I went into FirefoxhelpAbout Firefox and updated it but then it asked me to provide a password to keep it in sync. I didn't know what that was so backed out. However I got two messages on the 8500 that the Firefox password had changed. How can that be? I didn't touch the 8500. and the 780 doesn't seem different and I didn't know what programs were outdated as it didn't specify. Robert |
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Win7 support:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 4:38:49 PM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote: On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 8:03:57 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote: Robert in CA wrote: On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 7:16:15 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote: 1) Download MediaCreationTool1903.exe 2) Execute MediaCreationTool1903.exe 3) "Prepare media for another computer". 4) It'll download 3.5GB of stuff for the ISO file. 5) Have it burn the DVD-R when the download step is finished. 6) Place Spare drive in 8500, remove original drive. 7) Boot the DVD-R. 8) Do a Clean Install on the empty Spare drive. 9) A couple of screens into the install process, it will ask for a license key. 10) Enter the key. 11) Finish the install of Windows 10. 12) Verify it is activated. 13) Put original drive back in the 8500. I tried running the media creation tool: http://i68.tinypic.com/f0dweb.jpg "Create installation media..." http://i68.tinypic.com/256y7hl.jpg (Language selection etc) http://i68.tinypic.com/nlzhhl.jpg ISO file choice http://i64.tinypic.com/33090cl.jpg (windows.iso in Documents folder) http://i66.tinypic.com/2eqdnaf.jpg Errroor 0x8007139F - 0x90019 In passing here's the DVD-R, that looks like the old style reel to reel's. Pretty cool looking I think. http://i65.tinypic.com/23vchsj.jpg Robert ¡Ay, caramba! (denotes pain or surprise) I do hope you've logged in using your Administrator account. That's not what the error ( "0x8007139F - 0x90019" ) says by the way. I can't find that error. ******* We'll need help from the logfiles. These two files can be dropped onto an open copy of Notepad. https://www.winhelponline.com/blog/m...0072f76-20017/ C:\EWindows.~WS\Sources\Panther setuperr.log setupact.log You can see a representation here, if my output from MediaCreationTool1903.exe . I shut down this VM while the Win10 ISO was downloading, to "simulate an error". https://i.postimg.cc/9M43zQRp/logfiles-in-Notepad.gif The logfiles really aren't that helpful, unless by accident they blurt out the actual error! Try to collect any information you can get from there, that you feel is relevant. You don't have to do a new run yet - just have a look at the files first, before they're overwritten. Paul Yes, I was logged in as Administrator. I tried it once but got to a point where it said it required administrator account. So I switched users and logged in as Administrator. I'm not sure what you want me to do at this point? I went to the link provided but am confused what I am suppose to do? Do I run Win 10 update repair tool and then download it? I have no idea what would be relevant even if I saw it. Robert In passing I ran a Smart scan on the 780 recently and it said that my Firefox was out of date along with other programs.So I went into FirefoxhelpAbout Firefox and updated it but then it asked me to provide a password to keep it in sync. I didn't know what that was so backed out. However I got two messages on the 8500 that the Firefox password had changed. How can that be? I didn't touch the 8500. and the 780 doesn't seem different and I didn't know what programs were outdated as it didn't specify. Robert You've got me beat on the Firefox. Here is some text. "When using Sync, your Firefox Accounts login is stored with your saved passwords in the password manager. Your master password must be entered so Sync can access your Firefox Accounts login. Once the master password has been entered, Sync can also access your other saved passwords and sync them between your devices." You appear to be passing passwords between the two computers by using some sort of storage on the Mozilla site. I *never* follow any prompts presented in Firefox. Sales pitches are totally ineffective on me. ******* As for the situation on our little Win10 Digital Entitlement goes, Google is giving me no help at all. I could come up with a means to get the "too large" version of Windows 10, but then that needs dual layer media. And not even *I* will stoop to such stupidity. If Windows 10 required me to buy dual-layer media, Windows 10 would not be in my computer room... It's that simple. I noticed something else while analyzing the situation: 11 OS version (too big) Win10_1903_V1_English_x64.iso 4,939,528,192 bytes (needs dual layer DVD) install.wim inside... === everyone gets the same file The DVD can be obtained using a Torrent. SHA256: 9846DFBDD7C39EB8D025E0F28E180C6F4084ECF87ECD11805C D19C205F7A3B4E And using that checksum, I could get a torrent with that on it. Except it's unfit for the DVDs in hand! The MediaCreationTool1903 version: 7 OS version (fits a single layer DVD) Win10-64bit-mediacreation-1903-7OSes.iso 3,967,483,904 bytes install.esd inside... === everyone gets a *different* file. Computing a SHA256 is useless. There is *no way* to validate a torrented version as being authentic. Shades of Windows 8 nightmares. The ESD doesn't appear to be encrypted, but some strings inside the file are probably generated on-the-fly by the preparation tool. This means there is no way to prove the authenticity. ******* I can find *no* authoritative error code listing. 0x8007139F - 0x90019 That could be related to Windows Update. But the second number is important too. What error is that ? Only the two log files might give us a hint now. ******* Why have these people *insisted* on turning something simple, into an "IT project" ???? "Here, let's take something simple and make it complicated. Heh heh heh." Maybe it's a filter to make sure that only IT experts get a copy of Windows 10 ? I have a recipe to turn the 11 OS version into a 1 OS version, which fits on a DVD. Again, it was never my intention to "torture you" with one of my recipes. This was supposed to be a simple project. ******* What we *can* do, is fetch a *stale* copy of Windows 10, and you can use that for install. Now, how pleasant is that ? DVD+R 4,700,372,992 bytes \___ capacity of your media DVD-R 4,700,000,000 bytes / Most likely Heidoc values on size. These are the sizes of files with consistent checksums. 1903 x64 4,939,528,192 bytes 1809 x64 5,075,539,968 bytes (last version) 11 OS version 3,849,388,032 bytes (first version) 7 OS version 1803 x64 4,692,365,312 bytes You can see how close to the limit this is!!! 1709 x64 4,697,362,432 bytes 1703 x64 4,334,315,520 bytes 1511 x64 4,017,000,448 bytes Using your web browser, load the *First* link here, which is for the x64 version of release 1809. The download should be 3,849,388,032 bytes. I generated this link using the Heidoc URL generator. https://software-download.microsoft....b2 07c49fa8d4 https://software-download.microsoft....cd 74bf365234 Link valid for 24 hours Link expires 7/7/2019 3:25:08AM UTC There's no guarantee this is going to work, so it could be a waste of a DVD and of your bandwidth. It's either this, or analyze logfiles... Paul |
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