Gremlin=0 : Snit=1 "The Infamous Phone Call"

On 2020-09-07, Gremlin wrote:
Snit
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 21:45:09 GMT
in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On Sep 6, 2020 at 1:58:25 PM MST, "Mike Easter"
wrote:

Bobby wrote:
regarding the phone call between Gremlin and snit.

Personally I don't have it figured out yet. And I'm not looking
for winners or losers; I'm looking to solve a puzzle.


To me it is pretty simple:

Yes, it is. You got caught lying about my involvement with the bot.
I grilled you for an apology. you wrote another lie, I busted you
again for that one too. I grilled you for an apology for that one as
well. I've succesfully proven you're a liar who doesn't even care to
save the lies for big stories, you'll lie about simple **** just as
easily. And when you're caught and the pressure isn't taken off of
you, you'll resort to trying to intimidate your victim via doxing,
besmirchment, stalking, and sliming them. You've yet to do anything
different.

You will lie your ass off, it doesn't matter how many times others
point out the fallacies in your stories, you'll stick to it. Even
when you're busted dead to rights, you'll still ignore the facts and
proclaim you didn't do what the evidence is clearly showing you did!
You couldn't possibly be any more dishonest with yourself and
others, snit.

Considering your direct experience with snit is limited, at least in terms
of time, that's an excellent deconstruction of snit and how snit trolls.
Snit is like a circuit that has a piece of solder bridging 2 traces on
a board and that prevents a certain function from operating correctly.

In snit's case, that function is the ability to fully and unconditionally
admit when he is wrong and to apologize for his error.
The key word is unconditionally. There is always a condition, a string, a trap
attached to a snit admission or apology.
Always.

The best part of snit is he is like a living document. For whatever reason,
snit will join a group or blog and within a very short time the unrest
begins.
Someone will invariably discover the snit lists, post them and the chaos
will be triggered.

Sit back, observe and give it a little time and snit will actually begin
to behave almost exactly like the various snit lists describe him to be.

That's why I say he is like a living document. Those messages were mostly
written a decade or more ago and to this day, snit still proves that he
is what he claims.

The most recent example is talk.politics.guns, where the group turned to
**** when snit started posting.

He's mostly ignored there, so he moved on to ACW and the same thing, chaos
and disruption occurred here. And it's the same thing that happened in
CSMA and continues to happen in COLA, which is almost dead ATM because
the good posters have left.

At some point people do figure snit out and KF him. And once again snit
becomes predictable when he gets ignored. He will start his RainMain
process, posting the same reply multiple times day after day to various
posts.

As a last ditch effort snit will unleash his sock puppet army, invade the
group in a final battle, Armageddon of sorts, to bury the group by causing
fed up people to move on.

That is what he did in CSMA, another almost dead group partially due to
snit's trolling.

Get ready for it because the signs are there.







--
pothead

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 13:23:44 -0000 (UTC), pothead
wrote:

At some point people do figure snit out and KF him. And once again snit
becomes predictable when he gets ignored. He will start his RainMain
process, posting the same reply multiple times day after day to various
posts.

As a last ditch effort snit will unleash his sock puppet army, invade the
group in a final battle, Armageddon of sorts, to bury the group by causing
fed up people to move on.

That is what he did in CSMA, another almost dead group partially due to
snit's trolling.

Get ready for it because the signs are there.


He tried that in t.p.g and got the snot kicked out of him. The only
time we hear about him now is when one of you idiots cross posts here.
Otherwise, he knows to stay away.

On 2020-09-07, Klaus Schadenfreude klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen wrote:
On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 13:23:44 -0000 (UTC), pothead
wrote:

At some point people do figure snit out and KF him. And once again snit
becomes predictable when he gets ignored. He will start his RainMain
process, posting the same reply multiple times day after day to various
posts.

As a last ditch effort snit will unleash his sock puppet army, invade the
group in a final battle, Armageddon of sorts, to bury the group by causing
fed up people to move on.

That is what he did in CSMA, another almost dead group partially due to
snit's trolling.

Get ready for it because the signs are there.


He tried that in t.p.g and got the snot kicked out of him. The only
time we hear about him now is when one of you idiots cross posts here.
Otherwise, he knows to stay away.

Snit is currently getting his ass kicked over in alt.computer.workshop.
Same story as TPG.


Apologies for the cross post.
I will observe the FUP in future posts.

--
pothead

On Sep 7, 2020 at 6:41:45 AM MST, "Klaus Schadenfreude"
wrote:

On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 13:23:44 -0000 (UTC), pothead
wrote:

At some point people do figure snit out and KF him. And once again snit
becomes predictable when he gets ignored. He will start his RainMain
process, posting the same reply multiple times day after day to various
posts.

As a last ditch effort snit will unleash his sock puppet army, invade the
group in a final battle, Armageddon of sorts, to bury the group by causing
fed up people to move on.

That is what he did in CSMA, another almost dead group partially due to
snit's trolling.

Get ready for it because the signs are there.


He tried that in t.p.g and got the snot kicked out of him.

Your creative writing is not very good.

The only
time we hear about him now is when one of you idiots cross posts here.
Otherwise, he knows to stay away.

I am not obligated to be in any group... not sure why you would think
otherwise or think a group that proved to not be of much interest is one I was
chased out of or something.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

pothead Mon,
07 Sep 2020 13:23:44 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On 2020-09-07, Gremlin wrote:
Snit
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 21:45:09
GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On Sep 6, 2020 at 1:58:25 PM MST, "Mike Easter"
wrote:

Bobby wrote:
regarding the phone call between Gremlin and snit.

Personally I don't have it figured out yet. And I'm not
looking for winners or losers; I'm looking to solve a puzzle.


To me it is pretty simple:

Yes, it is. You got caught lying about my involvement with the
bot. I grilled you for an apology. you wrote another lie, I
busted you again for that one too. I grilled you for an apology
for that one as well. I've succesfully proven you're a liar who
doesn't even care to save the lies for big stories, you'll lie
about simple **** just as easily. And when you're caught and the
pressure isn't taken off of you, you'll resort to trying to
intimidate your victim via doxing, besmirchment, stalking, and
sliming them. You've yet to do anything different.

You will lie your ass off, it doesn't matter how many times
others point out the fallacies in your stories, you'll stick to
it. Even when you're busted dead to rights, you'll still ignore
the facts and proclaim you didn't do what the evidence is clearly
showing you did! You couldn't possibly be any more dishonest with
yourself and others, snit.

Considering your direct experience with snit is limited, at least
in terms of time, that's an excellent deconstruction of snit and
how snit trolls. Snit is like a circuit that has a piece of solder
bridging 2 traces on a board and that prevents a certain function
from operating correctly.

Whiskers are a pain in the ass at times. G I've no doubt your
reply confused snit, and he most likely thinks i'm writing about a
cat in my response. G

In snit's case, that function is the ability to fully and
unconditionally admit when he is wrong and to apologize for his
error. The key word is unconditionally. There is always a
condition, a string, a trap attached to a snit admission or
apology. Always.

Of course. Here's a perfect example:

From: Snit
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop,comp.os.linux.advocacy,co mp.sys.mac.advocacy,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Ha! Ads be gone!
Date: 27 Aug 2020 16:00:24 GMT
Organization: Sourthern Nevada Institute of Technology
Message-ID:
References: op.0oxuv7shwdg98l@glass YyRp XnsAC1EBCDBAAD5EHT1@0ydV5Cg6OLqWT90unHZ34QVT6yqk8 KnKb.nd

I did incorrectly say he had not asked me to "research" or whatever -- not
considering such a quick look to really count. But from your perspective, I
suppose, where doing a quick search on a list is not completely trivial, it
counts. Sorry for my error on that.

Again, for comparison, this is what I wrote that he claimed was a direct lie:
From: Snit
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
Subject: Ha! Ads be gone!
Date: 18 Aug 2020 17:06:20 GMT
Organization: Sourthern Nevada Institute of Technology
Message-ID:
References: op.0oxuv7shwdg98l@glass 3WTC373bt67J31gn YyRp

On Aug 18, 2020 at 8:49:01 AM MST, "Gremlin" wrote:
David has asked you to check it against phone book urls he shared
with you.

This is a direct lie from you. He did no such thing.

*** end copy

There was no direct lie by me, there was no lie of any kind by me.
Snit told two in those two sentences he wrote.

And you can clearly see, the apology doesn't match the context.

Sit back, observe and give it a little time and snit will actually
begin to behave almost exactly like the various snit lists
describe him to be.

He already is. His doxing me though, well, that just wasn't smart.

At some point people do figure snit out and KF him. And once again
snit becomes predictable when he gets ignored. He will start his
RainMain process, posting the same reply multiple times day after
day to various posts.

I'm not going to kf him. That would be letting him off for his
transgressions. That's just not going to happen. He's going to pay
with heavy interest. We're just getting warmed up.

As a last ditch effort snit will unleash his sock puppet army,
invade the group in a final battle, Armageddon of sorts, to bury
the group by causing fed up people to move on.

Won't work against me. I'm not going to back off, I've already got a
reputation, what's one more 'victim' in my long list of them?

Get ready for it because the signs are there.

Hehe. Snit is the one who should be getting ready for me. He's
started a fight with someone he has no chance in hell of winning. I
am legion, for we are many.


--
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https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html
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https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

Chronic nym-shifting deranged troll...

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Subject: Gremlin=0 : Snit=1 "The Infamous Phone Call"
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On 2020-09-07, Gremlin wrote:
Snit
Sun, 06 Sep 2020 21:45:09 GMT
in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:

On Sep 6, 2020 at 1:58:25 PM MST, "Mike Easter"
wrote:

Bobby wrote:
regarding the phone call between Gremlin and snit.

Personally I don't have it figured out yet. And I'm not looking
for winners or losers; I'm looking to solve a puzzle.


To me it is pretty simple:

Yes, it is. You got caught lying about my involvement with the bot.
I grilled you for an apology. you wrote another lie, I busted you
again for that one too. I grilled you for an apology for that one as
well. I've succesfully proven you're a liar who doesn't even care to
save the lies for big stories, you'll lie about simple **** just as
easily. And when you're caught and the pressure isn't taken off of
you, you'll resort to trying to intimidate your victim via doxing,
besmirchment, stalking, and sliming them. You've yet to do anything
different.

You will lie your ass off, it doesn't matter how many times others
point out the fallacies in your stories, you'll stick to it. Even
when you're busted dead to rights, you'll still ignore the facts and
proclaim you didn't do what the evidence is clearly showing you did!
You couldn't possibly be any more dishonest with yourself and
others, snit.

Considering your direct experience with snit is limited, at least in terms
of time, that's an excellent deconstruction of snit and how snit trolls.
Snit is like a circuit that has a piece of solder bridging 2 traces on
a board and that prevents a certain function from operating correctly.

In snit's case, that function is the ability to fully and unconditionally
admit when he is wrong and to apologize for his error.
The key word is unconditionally. There is always a condition, a string, a trap
attached to a snit admission or apology.
Always.

The best part of snit is he is like a living document. For whatever reason,
snit will join a group or blog and within a very short time the unrest
begins.
Someone will invariably discover the snit lists, post them and the chaos
will be triggered.

Sit back, observe and give it a little time and snit will actually begin
to behave almost exactly like the various snit lists describe him to be.

That's why I say he is like a living document. Those messages were mostly
written a decade or more ago and to this day, snit still proves that he
is what he claims.

The most recent example is talk.politics.guns, where the group turned to
**** when snit started posting.

He's mostly ignored there, so he moved on to ACW and the same thing, chaos
and disruption occurred here. And it's the same thing that happened in
CSMA and continues to happen in COLA, which is almost dead ATM because
the good posters have left.

At some point people do figure snit out and KF him. And once again snit
becomes predictable when he gets ignored. He will start his RainMain
process, posting the same reply multiple times day after day to various
posts.

As a last ditch effort snit will unleash his sock puppet army, invade the
group in a final battle, Armageddon of sorts, to bury the group by causing
fed up people to move on.

That is what he did in CSMA, another almost dead group partially due to
snit's trolling.

Get ready for it because the signs are there.







--
pothead

On 9/8/2020 12:30 PM, John Doe wrote:
Chronic nym-shifting deranged troll...



Yes, I know. So does everyone else here. I just reluctantly killfiled
Snit. Either stop replying to trolls, or I'll have to killfile you too.
I don't want to read posts from trolls or to trolls.



--
Ken

Ken,

I don't want to read posts trolls or to trolls.

Suppress (flag) instead of kill (delete) a trolls post, and set your browser
to suppress responses to parents that are suppresed themselves.

Presto, whole (sub)threads automatically gone - including responses from
people who are well-willing, but for some reason getting cought up in it.

Pretty-much the only messages I currently see for today and yesterday are
the "send to.." ones (12 messages in all) - unless I chose to un-hide the
rest ofcourse.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

On 08/09/2020 20:24, Gremlin is owned by the devil :-(

I am legion, for we are many.

This usage of the word “legion� derives from the New Testament story of
the devils of Gadara as first recounted in the gospel of Mark 5:1-19,
then adapted to appear also in the gospels of Matthew and Luke. An
insane man, who lived among the tomb caves and cut himself with stones,
confronted Jesus as He arrived. The demon spoke through the man, saying,
“Don't bother me.� Jesus, recognizing the possessing demon, asks, “What
is your name?� The demon replied, “I am Legion, for we are many.� The
man pleads not to be sent away from this area, presumably where he was a
native. The demon(s), expecting to be expelled from the man, ask to be
sent into a nearby herd of swine. Jesus obligingly transfers the
demon(s) into the swine. The swine suddenly take on the madness the man
had been experiencing and rush down to the shore of the lake and are
drowned, all 2,000 of them. Jesus, as a Jew and abhorring swine, felt no
compunction about their demise, but the people of the area, non-Jews and
pork eaters, had just lost much of their yearly food supply. They begged
Jesus to move on. It seems unlikely they were compensated for their
economic disaster. But this was the kind of story people of the time
would have found convincing as to the magical powers of Jesus.

-

*The Holy Spirit will help Snit*

Hear the Good News! :-D

On 9/9/2020 2:19 AM, R.Wieser wrote:

Ken,

I don't want to read posts trolls or to trolls.

Suppress (flag) instead of kill (delete) a trolls post, and set your browser
to suppress responses to parents that are suppresed themselves.

Presto, whole (sub)threads automatically gone - including responses from
people who are well-willing, but for some reason getting cought up in it.


No.

First, there's no browser involved. I use Thunderbird for usenet.

Second, there's no option to "suppress."

Third, I've tried numbers of different options in Thunderbird, and none
of them work any better than Delete.

Please don't tell me to switch what program I use. I've tried most of
the available programs, and I like Thunderbird the best. Most of them
have some things I like better than what Thunderbird does, and other
things that I like less than what Thunderbird does. On balance, I prefer
Thunderbird.

I will continue to killfile those who are obviously trolls and those who
continually reply to trolls.

--
Ken

On 2020-09-09, David_B wrote:
On 08/09/2020 20:24, Gremlin is owned by the devil :-(

I am legion, for we are many.

This usage of the word “legion� derives from the New Testament story of
the devils of Gadara as first recounted in the gospel of Mark 5:1-19,
then adapted to appear also in the gospels of Matthew and Luke. An
insane man, who lived among the tomb caves and cut himself with stones,
confronted Jesus as He arrived. The demon spoke through the man, saying,
“Don't bother me.� Jesus, recognizing the possessing demon, asks, “What
is your name?� The demon replied, “I am Legion, for we are many.� The
man pleads not to be sent away from this area, presumably where he was a
native. The demon(s), expecting to be expelled from the man, ask to be
sent into a nearby herd of swine. Jesus obligingly transfers the
demon(s) into the swine. The swine suddenly take on the madness the man
had been experiencing and rush down to the shore of the lake and are
drowned, all 2,000 of them. Jesus, as a Jew and abhorring swine, felt no
compunction about their demise, but the people of the area, non-Jews and
pork eaters, had just lost much of their yearly food supply. They begged
Jesus to move on. It seems unlikely they were compensated for their
economic disaster. But this was the kind of story people of the time
would have found convincing as to the magical powers of Jesus.

-

*The Holy Spirit will help Snit*

Snit will not be pleased. For one, he not only *abhors* religion,
Christianity is at the top of his hate list. Secondly, etymology is
something he laughs at. When you're creating your own dictionary, like
he is, a thing like word history gets in his way.

Ken Blake wrote:
On 9/9/2020 2:19 AM, R.Wieser wrote:

Ken,

I don't want to read posts trolls or to trolls.

Suppress (flag) instead of kill (delete) a trolls post, and set your browser
to suppress responses to parents that are suppresed themselves.

Presto, whole (sub)threads automatically gone - including responses from
people who are well-willing, but for some reason getting cought up in it.

No.

First, there's no browser involved. I use Thunderbird for usenet.

Second, there's no option to "suppress."

Third, I've tried numbers of different options in Thunderbird, and none
of them work any better than Delete.

I and several others have posted - to you - about this and those who
use Thunderbird say it *does* work if you set up a Message Filter (Tools
- Message Filters) and set the 'Match' section to match the 'From' of
the bozo and in 'Perform these actions:' set the action to 'Ignore
Subthread' (*not* 'Ignore Thread').

I have Thunderbird but don't use it for Usenet/NetNews), so it would
be nice if those who do use such a Message Filter for News can
(re-)confirm that this indeed works and how.

(Ping Ralph Fox?)

Please don't tell me to switch what program I use. I've tried most of
the available programs, and I like Thunderbird the best. Most of them
have some things I like better than what Thunderbird does, and other
things that I like less than what Thunderbird does. On balance, I prefer
Thunderbird.

You don't have to switch.

I will continue to killfile those who are obviously trolls and those who
continually reply to trolls.

(AFAIK,) With the above setup you do not have to killfile those who
reply to trolls, because you won't see those replies.

On 9/9/2020 8:25 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Ken Blake wrote:
On 9/9/2020 2:19 AM, R.Wieser wrote:

Ken,

I don't want to read posts trolls or to trolls.

Suppress (flag) instead of kill (delete) a trolls post, and set your browser
to suppress responses to parents that are suppresed themselves.

Presto, whole (sub)threads automatically gone - including responses from
people who are well-willing, but for some reason getting cought up in it.

No.

First, there's no browser involved. I use Thunderbird for usenet.

Second, there's no option to "suppress."

Third, I've tried numbers of different options in Thunderbird, and none
of them work any better than Delete.

I and several others have posted - to you - about this and those who
use Thunderbird say it *does* work if you set up a Message Filter (Tools
- Message Filters) and set the 'Match' section to match the 'From' of
the bozo and in 'Perform these actions:' set the action to 'Ignore
Subthread' (*not* 'Ignore Thread').


Yes, I know you have. I've tried what you suggested more than once. I
wish I could get it work, but I haven't been successful.


I have Thunderbird but don't use it for Usenet/NetNews), so it would
be nice if those who do use such a Message Filter for News can
(re-)confirm that this indeed works and how.

(Ping Ralph Fox?)


If you say it works, I'll believe you, but I can't get it to work and I
don't know why. Is it something I'm doing wrong? Some extension I have
running? Any suggestion would be appreciated. It sounds like a great
setting to use.




--
Ken

On 09/09/2020 16:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2020-09-09, David_B wrote:
On 08/09/2020 20:24, Gremlin is owned by the devil :-(

I am legion, for we are many.

This usage of the word “legion� derives from the New Testament story of
the devils of Gadara as first recounted in the gospel of Mark 5:1-19,
then adapted to appear also in the gospels of Matthew and Luke. An
insane man, who lived among the tomb caves and cut himself with stones,
confronted Jesus as He arrived. The demon spoke through the man, saying,
“Don't bother me.� Jesus, recognizing the possessing demon, asks, “What
is your name?� The demon replied, “I am Legion, for we are many.� The
man pleads not to be sent away from this area, presumably where he was a
native. The demon(s), expecting to be expelled from the man, ask to be
sent into a nearby herd of swine. Jesus obligingly transfers the
demon(s) into the swine. The swine suddenly take on the madness the man
had been experiencing and rush down to the shore of the lake and are
drowned, all 2,000 of them. Jesus, as a Jew and abhorring swine, felt no
compunction about their demise, but the people of the area, non-Jews and
pork eaters, had just lost much of their yearly food supply. They begged
Jesus to move on. It seems unlikely they were compensated for their
economic disaster. But this was the kind of story people of the time
would have found convincing as to the magical powers of Jesus.

-

*The Holy Spirit will help Snit*

Snit will not be pleased. For one, he not only *abhors* religion,
Christianity is at the top of his hate list. Secondly, etymology is
something he laughs at. When you're creating your own dictionary, like
he is, a thing like word history gets in his way.

Snit will be helped whether he likes it or not!

The devil - in the shape and form of diesel - cannot and WILL not be
allowed to win! 👹

On Sep 9, 2020 at 12:52:20 PM MST, "David_B"
wrote:

On 09/09/2020 16:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
On 2020-09-09, David_B wrote:
On 08/09/2020 20:24, Gremlin is owned by the devil :-(

I am legion, for we are many.

This usage of the word “legion� derives from the New Testament story of
the devils of Gadara as first recounted in the gospel of Mark 5:1-19,
then adapted to appear also in the gospels of Matthew and Luke. An
insane man, who lived among the tomb caves and cut himself with stones,
confronted Jesus as He arrived. The demon spoke through the man, saying,
“Don't bother me.� Jesus, recognizing the possessing demon, asks, “What
is your name?� The demon replied, “I am Legion, for we are many.� The
man pleads not to be sent away from this area, presumably where he was a
native. The demon(s), expecting to be expelled from the man, ask to be
sent into a nearby herd of swine. Jesus obligingly transfers the
demon(s) into the swine. The swine suddenly take on the madness the man
had been experiencing and rush down to the shore of the lake and are
drowned, all 2,000 of them. Jesus, as a Jew and abhorring swine, felt no
compunction about their demise, but the people of the area, non-Jews and
pork eaters, had just lost much of their yearly food supply. They begged
Jesus to move on. It seems unlikely they were compensated for their
economic disaster. But this was the kind of story people of the time
would have found convincing as to the magical powers of Jesus.

-

*The Holy Spirit will help Snit*

Snit will not be pleased. For one, he not only *abhors* religion,

Lie 1 from Steve Carroll.

Christianity is at the top of his hate list.

Lie 2 from Steve Carroll.

Secondly, etymology is
something he laughs at.

Lie 3 from Steve Carroll.

When you're creating your own dictionary, like
he is, a thing like word history gets in his way.

Lie 4 from Steve Carroll

Yes, Steve Carroll lies more in a day than he can show me lying in a year.

Snit will be helped whether he likes it or not!

Perhaps.

The devil - in the shape and form of diesel - cannot and WILL not be
allowed to win! 👹

He, like Carroll, will likely defeat himself.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.