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Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?



 
 
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Old January 3rd 18, 08:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Joe Scotch
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Default Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?

/nIn , "M.L." wrote:

This is a *great* idea.
How does one turn on this "native adblocker feature" in Windows?


You download a hosts (ad blacklist) file and copy it into
c:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts


Oh. That's all you were talking about.
Bummer. I thought there was something in Windows I didn't know about.

I already use the same hosts file on all my devices, including Android,
where on Windows it started years ago as Peter's Host File and then
added the MVP Hosts file and a plethora of other hosts files and
then I learned how to cull out the duplicates and to easily add
lines to the MASTER hosts file which I keep on Windows.

On Windows, for example, this edits my hosts file:
Start Run hosts
Where we've discussed, on this very newsgroup, the Windows
'magic' in the registry App Paths key to make that work flawlessly.
HKLM SOFTWARE Microsoft Windows CurrentVersion App Paths
hosts.exe

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a browser addon that can download
and extract from YouTube vids.


There's no value to an addon when all that is needed is a single command:
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}


Command line downloading is inefficient if you want to download
multiple vids or extract multiple mp3s at a time.


I have to disagree in that the tool I use does *everything*
you can possibly do with *any* combination of other tools.

For example, it handles playlists in a bunch of ways, and
it can download based on regular expressions that go further
than just the name of the video but which can be the number
of the comments and the date of the video and the number of
views and whatever you want.

Check out the manpage (look at "playlists" for example)...
Usage: youtube-dl.exe [OPTIONS] URL [URL...]

Options:
General Options:
-h, --help Print this help text and exit
--version Print program version and exit
-U, --update Update this program to latest version.
Make sure that you have sufficient permissions
(run with sudo if needed)
-i, --ignore-errors Continue on download errors, for example to
skip unavailable videos in a playlist
--abort-on-error Abort downloading of further videos (in the
playlist or the command line) if an error
occurs
--dump-user-agent Display the current browser identification
--list-extractors List all supported extractors
--extractor-descriptions Output descriptions of all supported
extractors
--force-generic-extractor Force extraction to use the generic
extractor
--default-search PREFIX Use this prefix for unqualified URLs.
For example "gvsearch2:" downloads two videos
from google videos for youtube-dl "large
apple". Use the value "auto" to let
youtube-dl guess ("auto_warning" to emit a
warning when guessing). "error" just throws
an error. The default value
"fixup_error"
repairs broken URLs, but emits an error if
this is not possible instead of searching.
--ignore-config Do not read configuration files. When given
in the global configuration file /etc
/youtube-dl.conf: Do not read the user
configuration in ~/.config/youtube-
dl/config
(%APPDATA%/youtube-dl/config.txt
on Windows)
--config-location PATH Location of the configuration file; either
the path to the config or its containing
directory.
--flat-playlist Do not extract the videos of a playlist,
only list them.
--mark-watched Mark videos watched (YouTube only)
--no-mark-watched Do not mark videos watched (YouTube only)
--no-color Do not emit color codes in output

Network Options:
--proxy URL Use the specified HTTP/HTTPS/SOCKS proxy.
To enable experimental SOCKS proxy, specify
a proper scheme. For example
socks5://127.0.0.1:1080/. Pass in an empty
string (--proxy "") for direct connection
--socket-timeout SECONDS Time to wait before giving up, in seconds
--source-address IP Client-side IP address to bind to
-4, --force-ipv4 Make all connections via IPv4
-6, --force-ipv6 Make all connections via IPv6

Geo Restriction:
--geo-verification-proxy URL Use this proxy to verify the IP address for
some geo-restricted sites. The default
proxy specified by --proxy (or none, if the
options is not present) is used for the
actual downloading.
--geo-bypass Bypass geographic restriction via faking X
-Forwarded-For HTTP header (experimental)
--no-geo-bypass Do not bypass geographic restriction via
faking X-Forwarded-For HTTP header
(experimental)
--geo-bypass-country CODE Force bypass geographic restriction with
explicitly provided two-letter ISO 3166-2
country code (experimental)

Video Selection:
--playlist-start NUMBER Playlist video to start at (default is 1)
--playlist-end NUMBER Playlist video to end at (default is last)
--playlist-items ITEM_SPEC Playlist video items to download. Specify
indices of the videos in the playlist
separated by commas like: "--playlist-items
1,2,5,8" if you want to download videos
indexed 1, 2, 5, 8 in the playlist. You can
specify range: "--playlist-items 1-3,7,10-13",
it will download the videos at index
1, 2, 3, 7, 10, 11, 12 and 13.
--match-title REGEX Download only matching titles (regex or
caseless sub-string)
--reject-title REGEX Skip download for matching titles (regex or
caseless sub-string)
--max-downloads NUMBER Abort after downloading NUMBER files
--min-filesize SIZE Do not download any videos smaller than
SIZE (e.g. 50k or 44.6m)
--max-filesize SIZE Do not download any videos larger than SIZE
(e.g. 50k or 44.6m)
--date DATE Download only videos uploaded in this date
--datebefore DATE Download only videos uploaded on or before
this date (i.e. inclusive)
--dateafter DATE Download only videos uploaded on or after
this date (i.e. inclusive)
--min-views COUNT Do not download any videos with less than
COUNT views
--max-views COUNT Do not download any videos with more than
COUNT views
--match-filter FILTER Generic video filter. Specify any key (see
the "OUTPUT TEMPLATE" for a list of
available keys) to match if the key is
present, !key to check if the key is not
present, key NUMBER (like "comment_count
12", also works with =, , =, !=, =) to

compare against a number, key = 'LITERAL'
(like "uploader = 'Mike Smith'", also works
with !=) to match against a string literal
and & to require multiple matches. Values
which are not known are excluded unless you
put a question mark (?) after the operator.
For example, to only match videos that have
been liked more than 100 times and disliked
less than 50 times (or the dislike functionality
is not available at the given service), but who
also have a description,
use --match-filter "like_count 100 &
dislike_count ? 50 & description" .
--no-playlist Download only the video, if the URL refers
to a video and a playlist.
--yes-playlist Download the playlist, if the URL refers to
a video and a playlist.
--age-limit YEARS Download only videos suitable for the given
age
--download-archive FILE Download only videos not listed in the
archive file. Record the IDs of all
downloaded videos in it.
--include-ads Download advertisements as well
(experimental)

Download Options:
-r, --limit-rate RATE Maximum download rate in bytes per second
(e.g. 50K or 4.2M)
-R, --retries RETRIES Number of retries (default is 10), or
"infinite".
--fragment-retries RETRIES Number of retries for a fragment (default
is 10), or "infinite" (DASH, hlsnative and
ISM)
--skip-unavailable-fragments Skip unavailable fragments (DASH, hlsnative
and ISM)
--abort-on-unavailable-fragment Abort downloading when some fragment is not
available
--keep-fragments Keep downloaded fragments on disk after
downloading is finished; fragments are
erased by default
--buffer-size SIZE Size of download buffer (e.g. 1024 or 16K)
(default is 1024)
--no-resize-buffer Do not automatically adjust the buffer
size. By default, the buffer size is
automatically resized from an initial value
of SIZE.
--playlist-reverse Download playlist videos in reverse order
--playlist-random Download playlist videos in random order
--xattr-set-filesize Set file xattribute ytdl.filesize with
expected file size (experimental)
--hls-prefer-native Use the native HLS downloader instead of
ffmpeg
--hls-prefer-ffmpeg Use ffmpeg instead of the native HLS
downloader
--hls-use-mpegts Use the mpegts container for HLS videos,
allowing to play the video while
downloading (some players may not be able
to play it)
--external-downloader COMMAND Use the specified external downloader.
Currently supports aria2c,avconv,axel,curl,ffmpeg,
httpie,wget
--external-downloader-args ARGS Give these arguments to the external
downloader

Filesystem Options:
-a, --batch-file FILE File containing URLs to download ('-' for
stdin)
--id Use only video ID in file name
-o, --output TEMPLATE Output filename template, see the "OUTPUT
TEMPLATE" for all the info
--autonumber-start NUMBER Specify the start value for %(autonumber)s
(default is 1)
--restrict-filenames Restrict filenames to only ASCII
characters, and avoid "&" and spaces in
filenames
-w, --no-overwrites Do not overwrite files
-c, --continue Force resume of partially downloaded files.
By default, youtube-dl will resume
downloads if possible.
--no-continue Do not resume partially downloaded files
(restart from beginning)
--no-part Do not use .part files - write directly
into output file
--no-mtime Do not use the Last-modified header to set
the file modification time
--write-description Write video description to a .description
file
--write-info-json Write video metadata to a .info.json file
--write-annotations Write video annotations to a
.annotations.xml file
--load-info-json FILE JSON file containing the video information
(created with the "--write-info-json"
option)
--cookies FILE File to read cookies from and dump cookie
jar in
--cache-dir DIR Location in the filesystem where youtube-dl
can store some downloaded information
permanently. By default
$XDG_CACHE_HOME
/youtube-dl or ~/.cache/youtube-dl . At the
moment, only YouTube player files (for
videos with obfuscated signatures) are
cached, but that may change.
--no-cache-dir Disable filesystem caching
--rm-cache-dir Delete all filesystem cache files

Thumbnail images:
--write-thumbnail Write thumbnail image to disk
--write-all-thumbnails Write all thumbnail image formats to disk
--list-thumbnails Simulate and list all available thumbnail
formats

Verbosity / Simulation Options:
-q, --quiet Activate quiet mode
--no-warnings Ignore warnings
-s, --simulate Do not download the video and do not write
anything to disk
--skip-download Do not download the video
-g, --get-url Simulate, quiet but print URL
-e, --get-title Simulate, quiet but print title
--get-id Simulate, quiet but print id
--get-thumbnail Simulate, quiet but print thumbnail URL
--get-description Simulate, quiet but print video description
--get-duration Simulate, quiet but print video length
--get-filename Simulate, quiet but print output filename
--get-format Simulate, quiet but print output format
-j, --dump-json Simulate, quiet but print JSON information.
See the "OUTPUT TEMPLATE" for a description
of available keys.
-J, --dump-single-json Simulate, quiet but print JSON information
for each command-line argument. If the URL
refers to a playlist, dump the whole
playlist information in a single line.
--print-json Be quiet and print the video
information as
JSON (video is still being
downloaded).
--newline Output progress bar as new lines
--no-progress Do not print progress bar
--console-title Display progress in console titlebar
-v, --verbose Print various debugging information
--dump-pages Print downloaded pages encoded using
base64
to debug problems (very verbose)
--write-pages Write downloaded intermediary pages to
files in the current directory to
debug
problems
--print-traffic Display sent and read HTTP traffic
-C, --call-home Contact the youtube-dl server for debugging
--no-call-home Do NOT contact the youtube-dl server for
debugging

Workarounds:
--encoding ENCODING Force the specified encoding (experimental)
--no-check-certificate Suppress HTTPS certificate validation
--prefer-insecure Use an unencrypted connection to retrieve
information about the video. (Currently
supported only for YouTube)
--user-agent UA Specify a custom user agent
--referer URL Specify a custom referer, use if the video
access is restricted to one domain
--add-header FIELD:VALUE Specify a custom HTTP header and its value,
separated by a colon ':'. You can use this
option multiple times
--bidi-workaround Work around terminals that lack
bidirectional text support. Requires bidiv
or fribidi executable in PATH
--sleep-interval SECONDS Number of seconds to sleep before each
download when used alone or a lower bound
of a range for randomized sleep before each
download (minimum possible number of
seconds to sleep) when used along with
--max-sleep-interval.
--max-sleep-interval SECONDS Upper bound of a range for randomized sleep
before each download (maximum possible
number of seconds to sleep). Must only be
used along with --min-sleep-interval.

Video Format Options:
-f, --format FORMAT Video format code, see the "FORMAT
SELECTION" for all the info
--all-formats Download all available video formats
--prefer-free-formats Prefer free video formats unless a
specific
one is requested
-F, --list-formats List all available formats of
requested
videos
--youtube-skip-dash-manifest Do not download the DASH manifests and
related data on YouTube videos
--merge-output-format FORMAT If a merge is required (e.g.
bestvideo+bestaudio), output to given
container format. One of mkv, mp4, ogg,
webm, flv. Ignored if no merge is required

Subtitle Options:
--write-sub Write subtitle file
--write-auto-sub Write automatically generated subtitle file
(YouTube only)
--all-subs Download all the available subtitles of the
video
--list-subs List all available subtitles for the video
--sub-format FORMAT Subtitle format, accepts formats
preference, for example: "srt" or
"ass/srt/best"
--sub-lang LANGS Languages of the subtitles to download
(optional) separated by commas, use
--list-
subs for available language tags
Authentication Options:
-u, --username USERNAME Login with this account ID
-p, --password PASSWORD Account password. If this option is left
out, youtube-dl will ask
interactively.
-2, --twofactor TWOFACTOR Two-factor authentication code
-n, --netrc Use .netrc authentication data
--video-password PASSWORD Video password (vimeo, smotri, youku)

Adobe Pass Options:
--ap-mso MSO Adobe Pass multiple-system operator (TV
provider) identifier, use
--ap-list-mso for
a list of available MSOs
--ap-username USERNAME Multiple-system operator account login
--ap-password PASSWORD Multiple-system operator account password.
If this option is left out, youtube-dl will
ask interactively.
--ap-list-mso List all supported multiple-system
operators

Post-processing Options:
-x, --extract-audio Convert video files to audio-only files
(requires ffmpeg or avconv and ffprobe or
avprobe)
--audio-format FORMAT Specify audio format: "best", "aac",
"flac", "mp3", "m4a", "opus", "vorbis", or
"wav"; "best" by default; No effect without
-x
--audio-quality QUALITY Specify ffmpeg/avconv audio quality, insert
a value between 0 (better) and 9 (worse)
for VBR or a specific bitrate like 128K
(default 5)
--recode-video FORMAT Encode the video to another format if
necessary (currently supported:
mp4|flv|ogg|webm|mkv|avi)
--postprocessor-args ARGS Give these arguments to the postprocessor
-k, --keep-video Keep the video file on disk after the post-
processing; the video is erased by default
--no-post-overwrites Do not overwrite post-processed files; the
post-processed files are overwritten by
default
--embed-subs Embed subtitles in the video (only for mp4,
webm and mkv videos)
--embed-thumbnail Embed thumbnail in the audio as cover art
--add-metadata Write metadata to the video file
--metadata-from-title FORMAT Parse additional metadata like song title /
artist from the video title. The format
syntax is the same as --output. Regular
expression with named capture groups may
also be used. The parsed parameters replace
existing values. Example:
--metadata-from-
title "%(artist)s - %(title)s" matches a
title like "Coldplay - Paradise".
Example
(regex): --metadata-from-title
"(?Partist.+?) - (?Ptitle.+)"
--xattrs Write metadata to the video file's xattrs
(using dublin core and xdg standards)
--fixup POLICY Automatically correct known faults of the
file. One of never (do nothing), warn (only
emit a warning), detect_or_warn (the
default; fix file if we can, warn
otherwise)
--prefer-avconv Prefer avconv over ffmpeg for running the
postprocessors (default)
--prefer-ffmpeg Prefer ffmpeg over avconv for running the
postprocessors
--ffmpeg-location PATH Location of the ffmpeg/avconv binary;
either the path to the binary or its
containing directory.
--exec CMD Execute a command on the file after
downloading, similar to find's -exec
syntax. Example: --exec 'adb push {}
/sdcard/Music/ && rm {}'
--convert-subs FORMAT Convert the subtitles to other format
(currently supported: srt|ass|vtt)
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  #77  
Old January 3rd 18, 08:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Joe Scotch
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Default Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?

/nIn vTmkB66N, Diesel
wrote:

You download a hosts (ad blacklist) file and copy it into
c:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts


That requires the advertising servers to remain static. They can
change IP/domain names anytime they like, rendering the previous
entries null and void. The hosts file was never actually intended for
the way in which you suggest using it...Despite it working to a point
for that purpose. It's the wrong tool for the job.


I periodically slide into my master HOSTS file the MVP Hosts file.
http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/

Command line downloading is inefficient if you want to download
multiple vids or extract multiple mp3s at a time.


It depends entirely on the command line and the tool you're using as
well as the site in which you're pulling the material from. One size
doesn't fit all.


The tool I use has a billion switches to do anything you want, from
downloading every third file in a playlist to a regular expression used on
a playlist to file size limitations, to not downloading videos in the
playlist without sufficient views or after a certain date, or whatever.

It's kind of like ImageMagick or vim in that there is already a built-in
option for everything anyone has ever needed.
  #78  
Old January 3rd 18, 08:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Joe Scotch
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/nIn , "M.L."
wrote:

Q: Does AdBlock block the inside-the-video inline video ads on YouTube?


Can't say for sure, but I know that the MVP hosts file blocks all
youTube ads in all my browsers.


This is great to know since I haven't updated my MVP Hosts file in a while
(so I'll slip that again into my already huge MASTER HOSTS file soon).

That Master HOSTS file gets propagated to all my devices, included Android,
which mounts easily to Windows' file system over the LAN.

I agree with you on the insane versatility of this global system wide
method of blocking hosts, rather than a browser-specific method such as
what AdBlock employs.

In use, the *global* (aka system wide) ad blockers do a *great* job in
blocking ads that I would never have thought *could* be blocked!

As one example, I bought some phones for Christmas and was using
Deep Art Effects - de.nextsol.deeparteffects.api
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.nextsol.deeparteffects.app

1. On the phone with the Master HOSTS file - there was no watermark
2. On the new phone (not yet set up with the Master Hosts) - there was

So even watermarks on photos put on by freeware editors are removed by the
global solution - which is something a browser-specific AdBlock can't do.

In general, I have a well-thought out Windows system, where anyone who
proposes a browser-specific solution is likely not thinking globally like
you and I think.

A browser-specific solution like AdBlock or a browser-specific youtube
downloader is only suggested by those who only use point solutions.

Nothing wrong with point solutions (they work); but it takes thinking and
philosophical design to come up with the more elegant global system-wide
solutions that we habitually employ.
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Old January 3rd 18, 08:59 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Joe Scotch
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/nIn news wrote:

When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do *NOT* know where it puts it.

GUI can be just as obtuse as CUI.


I also always have all my browsers set to ASK where to download since I put
different things in different places and there is a place for everything
before I download it.

I think I had to implement a hack in Edge to get it to ask ... let me look
.... nope ... the hack is just to let me put everything in a place of my
choosing - but it's only one place.

So, other than Edge, all the other browsers have a switch to just ASK where
you want to put each file (which is exactly what I want since each file has
a separate place it belongs).
  #80  
Old January 3rd 18, 09:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Joe Scotch
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/nIn vTmkB66N, Diesel
wrote:

Unless otherwise specified, it's most likely going to be stored in
the folder from which you executed the program from. That's usually
the case. And, incidently, I didn't recommend any console based
downloader for video/audio leeching. I recommended a friendly plugin
for firefox; nice little 'gui' based thing. No promises it works with
the latest POS mozilla released as I don't run that on this machine,
because I like the plugins I have.


I must agree with you that the youtube downloader I use puts the results in
the current working directory. Sigh.

You'd think with a billion options, one of them would be for where the
output should go.

Looking at the manpage, it has "--ouput TEMPLATE", where the template
template format is a mystery to me as of this date.
  #81  
Old January 3rd 18, 09:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Joe Scotch
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/nIn , "M.L."
wrote:

Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?


youtube-dlG frontend (portable)
https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui

youtube-dl-gui 1.52 (portable)
https://www.videohelp.com/software/youtube-dl-gui

yaYTDLFrontend (java portable)
https://bitbucket.org/qwertz19281/yaytdlfrontend/src


Thanks for the URLs of those youtube downloader GUIs.

The problem (for me) with those GUIs (which is stated elsewhere in this
thread), is that they require Python or Java, neither of which I want on my
system.

However, for others who aren't allergic to Python and Java, they are
probably perfectly workable GUIs.

Thanks for increasing the tribal knowledge of the group with actual URLs.

  #82  
Old January 3rd 18, 09:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Joe Scotch
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/nIn vTmkB66N, Diesel
wrote:

One individual in particular seems to be of the mistaken impression
that if you value your privacy online, you must have something to hide.


Your point is valid, in that it's very few people who think that anyone who
changes nyms and headers is a troll simply because they change nyms and
headers.

They're just like the people who think all Muslims are terrorists.

A troll has to actually troll to be a troll.

And, there's no concept of privacy online either.


True. As every Uesnet post is scooped up ... But...

Privacy depends on the adversary, does it not?

If the adversary is a state-sponsored or otherwise well-funded criminal
organization, you'd better not go anywhere near the Internet.

However, if the adversary is a commercial bot, then you can likely avoid
being pulled out of the agglomeration simply by changing headers.

If I wanted to, I'd change my writing style, which would add a second level
of privacy (but at greater effort).

The cost of privacy is always in the effort involved.

Obviously the
individual is mistaken on both counts. I also warn you in advance, if
you disagree with the individual concerning the above two matters, they
take it personally and seek to learn more about you, if possible. Under
the false guise of 'hunting bad guys' as, obviously to them, only bad
guys feel a need to be private.


The nym of Goodguy is one of those psychopaths, who keeps a log of each one
of us, with our headers and nntp posting hosts as his correlation.

Plenty more sociopaths on the nntp-related newsgroup alt.free.newsservers.
http://tinyurl.com/alt-free-newsservers

My signature contains more information about the individual I've
briefly described above and I strongly encourage you to become
acquainted with the material offered.


Thanks. The one thing they would hate is someone doing to them what they
habitually do to others - so you did the right thing. Kudos to you.
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Old January 3rd 18, 11:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-01-03 12:41, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.

[...]

Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...


You're forgetting (I do this all the time), that
some users aren't even aware there is a "menu bar" :-)

This is why they can't find it on their own.

The missing step, for those playing along at home, is to
make a right-click on the top of the Firefox window, and
the right-click menu offers a "Menu Bar" item. When you
select that, a return visit later will have a tick box
indicating you're enabled the Menu Bar at the top of the
window. Note that the entire surface of the top bar is
not "active", so you have to move the mouse around and
try a few times, until you hit the ticklish spot.

It's the modern "Easter Egg" design method for GUIs.

After you've done that, you can follow Wolfs path-to-victory.

When I offer Firefox help, I get this all the time.
"What menu bar are you talking about?" :-) Well, there
is one. You just have to play peek-a-boo with the interface
to get it.

*******

And at least a couple browsers, offer access to things
from the URL bar.

about:this
about:that

Firefox has

aboutlugins
about:config === *Danger. No Undo!!! Do not delete entries in there*

Chrome is even more "generous", Easter Egg Heaven.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/hidden-chrome-urls

chrome://plugins
chrome://flags

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/google...ttings-windows

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Old January 4th 18, 12:01 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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"Joe Scotch" wrote


So, other than Edge, all the other browsers have a switch to just ASK where
you want to put each file (which is exactly what I want since each file has
a separate place it belongs).


MS software tends to be that way, assuming that
most people will never figure out the file system so
files should be put into the personal docs folder.
Also, most corporate employees will have no choice.
They don't have permission anywhere else. The down
side is that it creates a high bar for figuring things
out. As any MS Word user where they keep their
DOCs. Most will say, "I don't know, but Word knows."


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Old January 4th 18, 08:04 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:58:03 -0500, Paul wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-01-03 12:41, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.

[...]

Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...


You're forgetting (I do this all the time), that
some users aren't even aware there is a "menu bar" :-)

This is why they can't find it on their own.

The missing step, for those playing along at home, is to
make a right-click on the top of the Firefox window, and
the right-click menu offers a "Menu Bar" item. When you
select that, a return visit later will have a tick box
indicating you're enabled the Menu Bar at the top of the
window. Note that the entire surface of the top bar is
not "active", so you have to move the mouse around and
try a few times, until you hit the ticklish spot.

It's the modern "Easter Egg" design method for GUIs.

After you've done that, you can follow Wolfs path-to-victory.

When I offer Firefox help, I get this all the time.
"What menu bar are you talking about?" :-) Well, there
is one. You just have to play peek-a-boo with the interface
to get it.


Another way to get to the Options page in Firefox is to click the
'hamburger' icon and select Options from the little window that opens.
Phone users will know what the hamburger looks like.

I *think* that's always available, and without any ticklish tricks.

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Old January 4th 18, 09:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:58:03 -0500, Paul wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-01-03 12:41, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]

Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...

You're forgetting (I do this all the time), that
some users aren't even aware there is a "menu bar" :-)

This is why they can't find it on their own.

The missing step, for those playing along at home, is to
make a right-click on the top of the Firefox window, and
the right-click menu offers a "Menu Bar" item. When you
select that, a return visit later will have a tick box
indicating you're enabled the Menu Bar at the top of the
window. Note that the entire surface of the top bar is
not "active", so you have to move the mouse around and
try a few times, until you hit the ticklish spot.

It's the modern "Easter Egg" design method for GUIs.

After you've done that, you can follow Wolfs path-to-victory.

When I offer Firefox help, I get this all the time.
"What menu bar are you talking about?" :-) Well, there
is one. You just have to play peek-a-boo with the interface
to get it.


Another way to get to the Options page in Firefox is to click the
'hamburger' icon and select Options from the little window that opens.
Phone users will know what the hamburger looks like.

I *think* that's always available, and without any ticklish tricks.


This could be true.

However, for me, once the Menu Bar is exposed, it's
a "feeling of relief at seeing something familiar".
I know that two or three "menu probes" and it will
all come back to me. Even if they've moved a bit
of the furniture to further their own objectives.

Paul
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Old January 4th 18, 03:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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"Char Jackson" wrote

| Another way to get to the Options page in Firefox is to click the
| 'hamburger' icon and select Options from the little window that opens.
| Phone users will know what the hamburger looks like.
|
| I *think* that's always available, and without any ticklish tricks.
|

That's another kind of ticklish trick. It's disastrous
design in that there's nothing intuitive, or even
attention-getting, about the hamburger icon. It's
just a misguided streamlining fetish. The same thing
on webpages makes them break completely without
javascript, yet serves no useful purpose.


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Old January 4th 18, 04:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 03:23:47 -0500, Paul wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 17:58:03 -0500, Paul wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-01-03 12:41, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]

Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...
You're forgetting (I do this all the time), that
some users aren't even aware there is a "menu bar" :-)

This is why they can't find it on their own.

The missing step, for those playing along at home, is to
make a right-click on the top of the Firefox window, and
the right-click menu offers a "Menu Bar" item. When you
select that, a return visit later will have a tick box
indicating you're enabled the Menu Bar at the top of the
window. Note that the entire surface of the top bar is
not "active", so you have to move the mouse around and
try a few times, until you hit the ticklish spot.

It's the modern "Easter Egg" design method for GUIs.

After you've done that, you can follow Wolfs path-to-victory.

When I offer Firefox help, I get this all the time.
"What menu bar are you talking about?" :-) Well, there
is one. You just have to play peek-a-boo with the interface
to get it.


Another way to get to the Options page in Firefox is to click the
'hamburger' icon and select Options from the little window that opens.
Phone users will know what the hamburger looks like.

I *think* that's always available, and without any ticklish tricks.


This could be true.

However, for me, once the Menu Bar is exposed, it's
a "feeling of relief at seeing something familiar".
I know that two or three "menu probes" and it will
all come back to me. Even if they've moved a bit
of the furniture to further their own objectives.


I meant to add that pressing the Alt key will temporarily unhide the
menu bar if it's normally hidden. Press Alt a second time to hide it
again.

That's ticklish too, though. What's intuitive about pressing Alt to see
a menu bar? I don't even understand the purpose of being able to hide
the menu bar on a PC platform. Is that a carryover from the phablet
ecosystem, where screen real estate is at a premium?

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Old January 4th 18, 06:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 17:11:59 -0500, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2018-01-03 12:41, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.

[...]

Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...


I have mine set to ask me, but there is a default, and I do not
know what it is in the sense that I would not know where to look if I
did not specify the directory.

I download to various locations depending on the item.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
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Old January 4th 18, 08:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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On Thu, 04 Jan 2018 09:46:47 -0800, Gene Wirchenko
wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 17:11:59 -0500, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2018-01-03 12:41, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.

[...]

Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...


I have mine set to ask me, but there is a default, and I do not
know what it is in the sense that I would not know where to look if I
did not specify the directory.


You'd simply go look at the default. ;-)

I download to various locations depending on the item.


Same here, but I know what my default save location is and I sometimes
use it.

 




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