Cool Web Search "Shredder" Update 03/12/03

HillBillly:
Stick this in your corncob pipe and smoke it. Do not judge , lest ye be
judged. Like so many claiming to be what your handle claims, you are narrow
minded , judgmental and about as far as one that claims to be a Christian
,can be. Don't flaunt it if you aint got it.
For your uninformed information --I did nothing to bring those problems upon
myself. You simply have a canned answer for what ever you are too
uninformed to understand.
I went to Google looking for a tutorial on my new XP machine. After locating
several likely sites on Google that claimed to be tutorials , I was taken to
a porno site. Trying to work my way out only resulted in my being taken to
one porno site after another. I did not download anything , did not click on
anything and did not moon the hillbillies. Get your facts straight before
you start making wild accusations . I would also note that this is not the
first time I have witnessed you do just that to numerous others. And by the
way , you can climb off me just as you climbed on. Either that , or you know
what you can kiss.
I understand the problem that Google has, its the same as we all have , and
there is little or nothing we can do about it, for now.
That said, your wild accusations, unfounded condemnations and uninformed
rhetoric do not help anyone. If indeed that is why you so often offer
useless advice.

MAD MAX

"HillBillyBuddhist" wrote in
message ...
"Mad Max" wrote in message
...
"john":
No wonder you need CW Shredder, you've been to Google.
My last visit to Google netted me two viruses , a Trojan Horse and a
Homepage Hijacker, not to mention assorted adware crapola.

For the record visiting Google did not infect your or anyone else's
computers. Foolish and unsafe computing practices following a visit to
Google may well have. The result and ramifications of such practices lie
solely on the head of the user and have nothing whatsoever to do with
having
visited Google.

--
D

I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
See store for details.

Remove shoes to E-mail.

John John:
On this NG one can find good advice and bad advice. If you think you cannot
get infected without downloading it ,
Why don't I just make a blanket statement for everyone who believes that.
You don't know what you are talking about!

"John John" wrote in message
...
Mad Max wrote:

My last visit to Google netted me two viruses , a Trojan Horse and a
Homepage Hijacker...

Baloney! Learn how to use the Internet instead of blaming Google.
Google does not surreptitiously install toolbars and BHO's. You had to
download and install them on your own will and accord. You probably did
the same with the other stuff...

John

Rubbish indeed !
That is exactly where and when my machine was infected with "cool web
search" and everything else I mentioned. And NO, I did not download anything
, agree to anything ,or sign my name.
Hello People , Get a grip. I'm not blaming Google. Period ! End of Argument.
Anyone would think you people own stock in google the way you defend it . It
is a tool , nothing more. Not a religion!


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Rubbish! You would prefer CoolWebSearch and all the troubles that that
entails?
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



john wrote:

Not for me, thanks.
Do a Google search for it and check out a few of the forum discussions.
It appears it's prone to damaging the Registry badly enough to the point
of no-boot.

Hello john:
Read your statement. Did I go to Google. Yes. Did I click on a URL that
Google offered as a tutorial site for XP ? Yes! So I'm to blame in your eyes
? Apparently so. Just exactly what kind of unsafe web practices is that ?
Come on now , you have all said I did something to bring it on myself. BE
SPECIFIC ! Exactly how many of you were sitting on my lap when I went to
Google? Well, you must have at least been in the room watching what I did.
Okay , fess up . None of you were here, now were you?
I confess, I killed the Golden Goose.

"john" wrote in message
...
ROFL. Get your facts right. Google will not infect you, the virus uses
"pseudo-Google" addresses.

Or to be more explicit, it adds several google addresses (google.de,
google.ch, google.ca, etc) search.yahoo.com, and search.msn.com to the
HOSTS
file, telling windows that the IP addresses for those sites is 127.0.0.1,
and that's where it's webserver is listening.

As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, always run AdAware & Spybot instead.
Both will find that virus and its variants, but MOST importantly, with
those
two progs YOU have full control over what is done about it.

--
John

"john":
No wonder you need CW Shredder, you've been to Google.
My last visit to Google netted me two viruses , a Trojan Horse and a
Homepage Hijacker, not to mention assorted adware crapola.
If you find anything better than CW Shredder to clean your machine ,
please let everyone know what it is.
Mad Max


"john" wrote in message
...
Not for me, thanks.
Do a Google search for it and check out a few of the forum discussions.
It appears it's prone to damaging the Registry badly enough to the
point of no-boot.

--
John

snip
A small utility for removing CoolWebSearch
(aka CoolWwwSearch, YouFindAll, White-Pages.ws and a dozen other
names). Spybot S&D tends to forget essential parts of the hijack, so
until it updates, you can just this to completely remove the hijack.
Updated to remove the new variants once they come out.
/snip

The utility
(http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip)

Unzip - close *all* instances of IE & OE, hit the executable and
follow the prompts.

MS-MVP used and approved tool - you are encouraged to run it.
Check for updates frequently, use the Update Feature in the Tool.

Please feel free to post this information to groups not listed here.

Regards,



--
siljaline

MS - MVP Windows IE/OE
______________________

(Reply to group, as return address
is invalid - that we may all benefit)

HillBillly:
Stick this in your corncob pipe and smoke it. Do not judge , lest ye be
judged. Like so many claiming to be what your handle claims, you are
narrow minded , judgmental and about as far as one that claims to be a
Christian ,can be. Don't flaunt it if you aint got it.
For your uninformed information --I did nothing to bring those problems
upon myself. You simply have a canned answer for what ever you are too
uninformed to understand.


I went to Google looking for a tutorial on my new XP machine. After
locating several likely sites on Google that claimed to be tutorials , I was
taken to a porno site. Trying to work my way out only resulted in my being
taken to one porno site after another. I did not download anything , did not
click on anything and did not moon the hillbillies.
Get your facts straight before you start making wild accusations . I would
also note that this is not the first time I have witnessed you do just that
to numerous others. And by the way , you can climb off me just as you
climbed on. Either that , or you know what you can kiss.
I understand the problem that Google has, its the same as we all have ,
and there is little or nothing we can do about it, for now.

Rubbish! Google has no problem, it's the link Google found based on YOUR
search criterea and which you elected to access.
Install Pop-up Stopper Pro, then you won't get into the endless loop of
multiplying porn pages - simply shut the first one down.

"wild accusations, unfounded condemnations and uninformed rhetoric" applies
more to your form of 'logic'

john

That said, your wild accusations, unfounded condemnations and uninformed
rhetoric do not help anyone. If indeed that is why you so often offer
useless advice.

MAD MAX

"HillBillyBuddhist" wrote in
message ...
"Mad Max" wrote in message
...
"john":
No wonder you need CW Shredder, you've been to Google.
My last visit to Google netted me two viruses , a Trojan Horse and a
Homepage Hijacker, not to mention assorted adware crapola.

For the record visiting Google did not infect your or anyone else's
computers. Foolish and unsafe computing practices following a visit to
Google may well have. The result and ramifications of such practices
lie solely on the head of the user and have nothing whatsoever to do
with having visited Google.

--
D

I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions
or advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
See store for details.

Remove shoes to E-mail.

In article , in the
microsoft.public.security news group, Mad Max
says...

HillBillly:
Stick this in your corncob pipe and smoke it. Do not judge , lest ye be
judged. Like so many claiming to be what your handle claims, you are narrow
minded , judgmental and about as far as one that claims to be a Christian
,can be. Don't flaunt it if you aint got it.

Did I miss something here? How do you get "claims to be a Christian"
from HillBillyBuddhist? You are aware, I hope, that Buddhism is not a
Christian religion?

snip

I understand the problem that Google has, its the same as we all have , and
there is little or nothing we can do about it, for now.

Google does not have a problem.


--
Paul Adare
Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo.
H. G. Wells, The Wife of Sir Isaac Harman

Simple fact! If you were infected while surfing the I'net, you would HAVE
HAD TO click on something to cause it to download.

BTW, your "I'm not blaming Google" comment seems to contradict your other
posts somewhat.
No-one is worshipping Google, it just happens to be the most efficient and
fastest search-engine currently available.
--

John

Rubbish indeed !
That is exactly where and when my machine was infected with "cool web
search" and everything else I mentioned. And NO, I did not download
anything , agree to anything ,or sign my name.
Hello People , Get a grip. I'm not blaming Google. Period ! End of
Argument. Anyone would think you people own stock in google the way you
defend it . It is a tool , nothing more. Not a religion!


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Rubbish! You would prefer CoolWebSearch and all the troubles that that
entails?
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



john wrote:

Not for me, thanks.
Do a Google search for it and check out a few of the forum
discussions. It appears it's prone to damaging the Registry badly
enough to the point of no-boot.

Mad Max wrote:

You don't know what you are talking about!

I know that you didn't get a BHO, two viruses and a trojan horse from
google.

You probably got the Trojan Horse in Troy. Instead of blaming Google
blame it on Helen, she's the one who started all of this...

John

"Mad Max" wrote in message
...
HillBillly:
Stick this in your corncob pipe and smoke it.

--------------delusional rant snipped-------------------

Hardly worth responding to other than to say;

A) I'm sorry, obviously what has happened is that all the others who posted
in response to your obviously incorrect and misleading statement and the
billions of people world wide who use Google everyday and never experience
the problems attribute to Google are obviously wrong and you alone stand
correct. (see there is no shame in being wrong, happens to everybody now and
again)

B) Based on the way you interact with others the problems you are having are
likely the result of your Karma.

I won't even comment on the mentality it takes to turn a simple correction
of misstated "fact" into a personal attack on an individuals spiritual
beliefs.

It's obvious you suffer greatly. I'll say a prayer..

--
D


Remove shoes to E-mail.

Since you appear to have problems when using your PC why not donate it to
someone who knows how to use it.

FACT you did not get CoolWebSearch or any other parasite or virus by accessing
Google. Grow up and just accept the fact that you are wrong and don't have a
clue what you're talking about.
--
Mike Maltby



Mad Max wrote:

Rubbish indeed !
That is exactly where and when my machine was infected with "cool web
search" and everything else I mentioned. And NO, I did not download
anything , agree to anything ,or sign my name.
Hello People , Get a grip. I'm not blaming Google. Period ! End of
Argument. Anyone would think you people own stock in google the way you
defend it . It is a tool , nothing more. Not a religion!

Google is a search engine, a giant database of websites. It does not know
what content is on the website, nor does it care. It simple gives you what
*you* ask for. It reccomends sites based on what you ask it to search for.
These databases are created by "bots", programs that "go out" and find
websites based on keywords in the websites code. If some jacka$$ put
keywords in his website code saying its a xp tutorial and its really a virus
ridden website that is not googles fault. They don't know what is on the
site, they simply log its name and description offered by the author of the
website. Many sites out there are bad, you just happened to get a bad one.
If Mapquest gives you directions thru a bad neighborhood and you get car
jacked, you can't blame mapquest. Same as you can't blame google, they just
suggested where to go. The author of the malicious site is the one you
blame, if you must blame someone.

"Mad Max" wrote in message
...
Hello john:
Read your statement. Did I go to Google. Yes. Did I click on a URL that
Google offered as a tutorial site for XP ? Yes! So I'm to blame in your
eyes
? Apparently so. Just exactly what kind of unsafe web practices is that ?
Come on now , you have all said I did something to bring it on myself. BE
SPECIFIC ! Exactly how many of you were sitting on my lap when I went to
Google? Well, you must have at least been in the room watching what I did.
Okay , fess up . None of you were here, now were you?
I confess, I killed the Golden Goose.

"john" wrote in message
...
ROFL. Get your facts right. Google will not infect you, the virus uses
"pseudo-Google" addresses.

Or to be more explicit, it adds several google addresses (google.de,
google.ch, google.ca, etc) search.yahoo.com, and search.msn.com to the
HOSTS
file, telling windows that the IP addresses for those sites is
127.0.0.1,
and that's where it's webserver is listening.

As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, always run AdAware & Spybot
instead.
Both will find that virus and its variants, but MOST importantly, with
those
two progs YOU have full control over what is done about it.

--
John

"john":
No wonder you need CW Shredder, you've been to Google.
My last visit to Google netted me two viruses , a Trojan Horse and a
Homepage Hijacker, not to mention assorted adware crapola.
If you find anything better than CW Shredder to clean your machine ,
please let everyone know what it is.
Mad Max


"john" wrote in message
...
Not for me, thanks.
Do a Google search for it and check out a few of the forum
discussions.
It appears it's prone to damaging the Registry badly enough to the
point of no-boot.

--
John

snip
A small utility for removing CoolWebSearch
(aka CoolWwwSearch, YouFindAll, White-Pages.ws and a dozen other
names). Spybot S&D tends to forget essential parts of the hijack, so
until it updates, you can just this to completely remove the hijack.
Updated to remove the new variants once they come out.
/snip

The utility
(http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/files/cwshredder.zip)

Unzip - close *all* instances of IE & OE, hit the executable and
follow the prompts.

MS-MVP used and approved tool - you are encouraged to run it.
Check for updates frequently, use the Update Feature in the Tool.

Please feel free to post this information to groups not listed here.

Regards,



--
siljaline

MS - MVP Windows IE/OE
______________________

(Reply to group, as return address
is invalid - that we may all benefit)

John:
Possibly you need to read my message again. I simply asked Google to find
tutorials for Windows XP. I know exactly what happened after that. You're
saying that Google cannot be blamed , because I should have specified that I
did not want any viruses, any Trojan Horses , or any Home page Hijackers
included . I see.
Lets say I did specify that. Would Google then be to blame ?
Couldn't really follow your rant because it was mixed in with Hillbillies
and mine. But, I have used Popup Stopper, for a short time and was not
impressed. The cure was worse than the disease.
To clear up one thing-- at the time I became so infected I was not using as
many prevention tools as now.
Concerning what you want to call " my logic " exactly what was the point you
were trying to make ? Possibly that you too hold the opinion that a virus
must be intentionally downloaded in order to become infected ?
Your statement that " Google has no problem" . Would you care to revise that
? Oh, I forgot. Google bears no responsibility for providing . It must then
be totally the fault of anyone taking their advice. I suppose you use that
same logic when you give advice.
Reminds me of a credit checking bureau that defamed me. They also took no
responsibility for their report, even though the report had numerous errors
and even a blind man could see that I was not the individual in question.
Only the names were the same, nothing else.
My lawyer convinced them that they did have legal responsibility and I had
legal recourse .The report was quickly revised.
Must be a full moon tonight.

MAD MAX
"john" wrote in message
...
HillBillly:
Stick this in your corncob pipe and smoke it. Do not judge , lest ye be
judged. Like so many claiming to be what your handle claims, you are
narrow minded , judgmental and about as far as one that claims to be a
Christian ,can be. Don't flaunt it if you aint got it.
For your uninformed information --I did nothing to bring those problems
upon myself. You simply have a canned answer for what ever you are too
uninformed to understand.


I went to Google looking for a tutorial on my new XP machine. After
locating several likely sites on Google that claimed to be tutorials , I
was
taken to a porno site. Trying to work my way out only resulted in my being
taken to one porno site after another. I did not download anything , did
not
click on anything and did not moon the hillbillies.
Get your facts straight before you start making wild accusations . I
would
also note that this is not the first time I have witnessed you do just
that
to numerous others. And by the way , you can climb off me just as you
climbed on. Either that , or you know what you can kiss.
I understand the problem that Google has, its the same as we all have ,
and there is little or nothing we can do about it, for now.

Rubbish! Google has no problem, it's the link Google found based on YOUR
search criterea and which you elected to access.
Install Pop-up Stopper Pro, then you won't get into the endless loop of
multiplying porn pages - simply shut the first one down.

"wild accusations, unfounded condemnations and uninformed rhetoric"
applies
more to your form of 'logic'

john

That said, your wild accusations, unfounded condemnations and uninformed
rhetoric do not help anyone. If indeed that is why you so often offer
useless advice.

MAD MAX

"HillBillyBuddhist" wrote in
message ...
"Mad Max" wrote in message
...
"john":
No wonder you need CW Shredder, you've been to Google.
My last visit to Google netted me two viruses , a Trojan Horse and a
Homepage Hijacker, not to mention assorted adware crapola.

For the record visiting Google did not infect your or anyone else's
computers. Foolish and unsafe computing practices following a visit to
Google may well have. The result and ramifications of such practices
lie solely on the head of the user and have nothing whatsoever to do
with having visited Google.

--
D

I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions
or advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
See store for details.

Remove shoes to E-mail.

Well, this was a fun thread......here's my unsolicited 2 cents:
Google is the best search engine available and not responsible for any virus
or trojan. Virtually any search criteria will result in an abundance of
'hits.' An "XP Tutorial" could mask anything the author intends. I do
agree that merely going to a site can download things to your machine that
you do not "click on" or want. Case in point, I got Comet Cursor by going
to a site on hypothyroidism....so it can happen. BUT, this was long ago and
I have since learned that there are ways to avoid this sort of thing, i.e.
adware/spyware/crapware blockers, proper use of a WRITE PROTECTED Hosts
file, antivirus program(s), etc.
Before you click on a site listed in the results of a Google search, hover
your pointer over the link and take a look at the http:// at the bottom of
your screen. You may (or may not) be surprised to see that there may be
something different from your intended goal.....
Oh yeah, Microsoft doesn't send out emails announcing updates or critical
fixes and the last time I checked.....there is a tutorial on XP that comes
with the OS and a dandy Help feature. g
Heirloom, old and likes Google

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Since you appear to have problems when using your PC why not donate it to
someone who knows how to use it.

FACT you did not get CoolWebSearch or any other parasite or virus by
accessing
Google. Grow up and just accept the fact that you are wrong and don't
have a
clue what you're talking about.
--
Mike Maltby



Mad Max wrote:

Rubbish indeed !
That is exactly where and when my machine was infected with "cool web
search" and everything else I mentioned. And NO, I did not download
anything , agree to anything ,or sign my name.
Hello People , Get a grip. I'm not blaming Google. Period ! End of
Argument. Anyone would think you people own stock in google the way you
defend it . It is a tool , nothing more. Not a religion!

Hillbilly:
Well , congratulations. First time I've seen anything from you that was not
canned.
My entire point was that I was infected with numerous things after selecting
a place that Google recommended. I am totally amazed that so many chose to
blame me for going to that recommended place and claimed that Google had
absolutely nothing to do with me being sent there.
Concerning my statements about religion , I don't usually comment on that,
however you choose to stick it out there and advertise the fact. I am fully
aware that you do not claim to be a Christian and I really do not care what
you choose to be. Buddhists like Christians and Jews and Moslems,for all I
know, all believe in treating others with respect. Hypocrisy has no place in
any religion . In your replies to others you reply to them as you did to me.
Without respect or even indulgence. If you push , expect to get pushed back.
You are just used to cutting people down and expect them to take it. What
kind of mentality does that take. You should take the time to read what is
included in your message, the canned part. Do I believe that is an accident
or is it laced with venom on purpose ?
By the way , exactly what was incorrect and misleading about my statement ?
I stated exactly what happened and how it happened.
Nothing incorrect or misleading about that. Apparently you perceived
something that was not there. I stated the facts and was immediately told
that it was my fault entirely. I am willing to accept blame for my own
mistakes, but not for the mistakes of others, even if it is a sacred cow
such as Google. Oh, I forgot , Google is perfect.
You might have a problem convincing true believing Christians that Google is
perfect, since in their eyes this cannot be true.

If you do nothing else , answer this single question . Is it your opinion
that I am lying about what I claim happened ? If so just spit it out! Read
what I said before you answer, please, just so there is no possibility that
you misunderstood. In case you haven't noticed I have stood by my original
statement and not wavered.
Either it happened as I said , or I am lying. Which is it, in your opinion
of course. And if I am not telling a bald faced lie, what then? Guess that
makes you wrong , doesn't it. As you said, everybody makes
mistakes----except Google of course.

Mad Max









"HillBillyBuddhist" wrote in
message ...
"Mad Max" wrote in message
...
HillBillly:
Stick this in your corncob pipe and smoke it.

--------------delusional rant snipped-------------------

Hardly worth responding to other than to say;

A) I'm sorry, obviously what has happened is that all the others who
posted
in response to your obviously incorrect and misleading statement and the
billions of people world wide who use Google everyday and never experience
the problems attribute to Google are obviously wrong and you alone stand
correct. (see there is no shame in being wrong, happens to everybody now
and
again)

B) Based on the way you interact with others the problems you are having
are
likely the result of your Karma.

I won't even comment on the mentality it takes to turn a simple correction
of misstated "fact" into a personal attack on an individuals spiritual
beliefs.

It's obvious you suffer greatly. I'll say a prayer..

--
D


Remove shoes to E-mail.

Well Mike:
Since you had a suggestion about what I should do with my PC, I feel
obligated to tell you what you can do with yours. By the way your "facts"
are not supported by facts.


"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Since you appear to have problems when using your PC why not donate it to
someone who knows how to use it.

FACT you did not get CoolWebSearch or any other parasite or virus by
accessing
Google. Grow up and just accept the fact that you are wrong and don't
have a
clue what you're talking about.
--
Mike Maltby



Mad Max wrote:

Rubbish indeed !
That is exactly where and when my machine was infected with "cool web
search" and everything else I mentioned. And NO, I did not download
anything , agree to anything ,or sign my name.
Hello People , Get a grip. I'm not blaming Google. Period ! End of
Argument. Anyone would think you people own stock in google the way you
defend it . It is a tool , nothing more. Not a religion!