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Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoad Windows7 updates
Hi,
I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a geek shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live classical concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job on this same work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they not do the transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P for repair. On the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However, 1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given, 80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied". 2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a "fatal error". Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done. Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework and then download the updates to Windows 7? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Mort Linder |
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On 10/12/2016 3:45 PM, Mort wrote:
Hi, I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a geek shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live classical concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job on this same work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they not do the transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P for repair. On the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However, 1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given, 80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied". 2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a "fatal error". Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done. Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework and then download the updates to Windows 7? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Mort Linder Give this link a view for a relatively easy way to transfer your stuff over to your new PC, when you get it back that is. http://www.easeus.com/free-pc-transfer-software/ Mind you I have not used the program myself, mainly because I was just made aware of it, but it sounds interesting. As for installing the framework stuff and upgrades is to give WSUS a try. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../bb332157.aspx It does take a little getting used to but instructions are on the same web page. People here have answered questions on how to get it working as well from time to time and it is still supported, so far. You might want to try Start|Control Panel|Programs and Features|Turn Windows features on or off and put a check on the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5.1 and follow the instructions to install that version. The rest can actually be installed individually on the Microsoft web site or thru the WSUS program. |
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Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates
Mort wrote:
Hi, I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a geek shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live classical concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job on this same work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they not do the transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P for repair. On the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However, 1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given, 80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied". 2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a "fatal error". Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done. Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework and then download the updates to Windows 7? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Mort Linder You've now learned a new "best practices". It is: *Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without having a *complete* backup of the hard drive. In other words, everything that's on the machines, you should have a copy in hand. Macrium Reflect Free can image hard drives for you, making compact single-file archives per drive. I've read horror stories *exactly* like your experience on USENET. And that's where the Best Practice idea comes from, is repeated experiences where computers are ruined at a shop. A typical Geek Squad accident, is taking a machine to have a USB card added, and the idiots reformat the hard drive. Because, like a production line, they're always reformatting and reinstalling stuff, and they can easily walk over to the wrong machine, and while in a daze, "start the Procedure". And then your data is gone. ******* There are various Windows Update Reset scripts. But such scripts do not necessarily handle all possible root causes. This one is overkill. The "ResetWUEng.cmd" file inside the ZIP, is a shell script. You can change the extension temporarily to .txt and open in Notepad, just to marvel at the amount of stuff in there. https://gallery.technet.microsoft.co...ResetWUEng.zip A bonus with that one, is a fair amount of emphasis on permissions when doing operations. Personally, I'd select a simpler looking one, for a first attempt. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ate-reset.html "Reset_Reregister_Windows_Update_Components.ba t" [RRWUC.bat] You would run that from an Administrator Command Prompt. Your right-click menu has a "Run as Administrator" option for when you run a Command Prompt window. You can execute the batch file from there. # An Admin window says "System32" cd /d %userprofile% # This puts you in your home dir cd Downloads # I assume you use a Downloads folder in Home RRWUC.bat # Type in the long name above. This is shorthand. That shouldn't take too long. With any luck, you'll stop seeing errors, but the delay for the Windows Update list to be painted, could be quite long. Anywhere from 5 minutes to 8 hours, due to the wuauserv issue. ******* The BITS subsystem is used by Windows for downloads. If you cannot download .NET using Windows Update, it could be a BITS issue. Downloading a file with the web browser should not return a "fatal error". Hunt down the .NET updates with a browser. For example (do this in Internet Explorer *only*) http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...Windows+7+.NET http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...+Feature+Packs The first returns 520 entries. Click the "Size" label on its column twice, so that the largest files are at the top. You will see some "Feature Pack" entries. I have no idea what you're looking for. You can check the Programs and Features control panel, and Windows Features, for more evidence of .NET . You will see a tick box for .NET 3.5.1 in there, which can be used to install or uninstall it. To "verify" a version of .NET, use Stebner's nice little applet. netfx_setupverifier_new.zip Aaron updates the file regularly and don't let the date on the page bother you. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ast...l-users-guide/ Look for "netfx_setupverifier_new.zip" here. Use a modern browser. https://onedrive.live.com/?id=27E6A3...E6A35D1A492AF7 There is usually one version of .NET that cannot be easily dealt with, as it was in the OS when the OS was installed. The table at the bottom here indicates Windows 7 had "3.5" by default. Windows Features makes "3.5.1" a tick-box installable. Programs and Features, if you find an existing .NET entry, you can try "Repair" rather than "Remove" from the options. Then, if that doesn't work, look for a download. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework If .NET 3.0 is damaged on your machine, I don't know what to tell you. Repair Install is an option, but I don't know if a less-obnoxious option is available to repair the built-in NET or not. That's the problem with Microsoft making them built-in, is repairing them. ******* Downloading the Windows Update is *never* easy. It's not just you having problems. One of my sidelines, is kicking the tires on Windows Update, over and over and over again... It's a constant source of irritation. ******* Whatever happened to your machine, is a "professional level" mistake/accident. So you cannot expect the normal bandaids we apply here, to help all that much. Without knowing what that person thought they were doing, it's pretty hard to guess how deep the damage is. Paul |
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:42:51 -0400, Paul wrote:
Mort wrote: [quoted text muted] Thanks in advance, Mort Linder You've now learned a new "best practices". It is: *Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without having a *complete* backup of the hard drive. You posted my thought before I did. Unfortunately, most people have to learn the hard way about the importance of complete backups. I sympathize with Mort, but don't have anything helpful to offer. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates
Paul wrote:
Mort wrote: Hi, I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a geek shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live classical concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job on this same work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they not do the transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P for repair. On the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However, 1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given, 80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied". 2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a "fatal error". Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done. Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework and then download the updates to Windows 7? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Mort Linder You've now learned a new "best practices". It is: *Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without having a *complete* backup of the hard drive. In other words, everything that's on the machines, you should have a copy in hand. Macrium Reflect Free can image hard drives for you, making compact single-file archives per drive. I've read horror stories *exactly* like your experience on USENET. And that's where the Best Practice idea comes from, is repeated experiences where computers are ruined at a shop. A typical Geek Squad accident, is taking a machine to have a USB card added, and the idiots reformat the hard drive. Because, like a production line, they're always reformatting and reinstalling stuff, and they can easily walk over to the wrong machine, and while in a daze, "start the Procedure". And then your data is gone. ******* There are various Windows Update Reset scripts. But such scripts do not necessarily handle all possible root causes. This one is overkill. The "ResetWUEng.cmd" file inside the ZIP, is a shell script. You can change the extension temporarily to .txt and open in Notepad, just to marvel at the amount of stuff in there. https://gallery.technet.microsoft.co...ResetWUEng.zip A bonus with that one, is a fair amount of emphasis on permissions when doing operations. Personally, I'd select a simpler looking one, for a first attempt. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ate-reset.html "Reset_Reregister_Windows_Update_Components.ba t" [RRWUC.bat] You would run that from an Administrator Command Prompt. Your right-click menu has a "Run as Administrator" option for when you run a Command Prompt window. You can execute the batch file from there. # An Admin window says "System32" cd /d %userprofile% # This puts you in your home dir cd Downloads # I assume you use a Downloads folder in Home RRWUC.bat # Type in the long name above. This is shorthand. That shouldn't take too long. With any luck, you'll stop seeing errors, but the delay for the Windows Update list to be painted, could be quite long. Anywhere from 5 minutes to 8 hours, due to the wuauserv issue. ******* The BITS subsystem is used by Windows for downloads. If you cannot download .NET using Windows Update, it could be a BITS issue. Downloading a file with the web browser should not return a "fatal error". Hunt down the .NET updates with a browser. For example (do this in Internet Explorer *only*) http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...Windows+7+.NET http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...+Feature+Packs The first returns 520 entries. Click the "Size" label on its column twice, so that the largest files are at the top. You will see some "Feature Pack" entries. I have no idea what you're looking for. You can check the Programs and Features control panel, and Windows Features, for more evidence of .NET . You will see a tick box for .NET 3.5.1 in there, which can be used to install or uninstall it. To "verify" a version of .NET, use Stebner's nice little applet. netfx_setupverifier_new.zip Aaron updates the file regularly and don't let the date on the page bother you. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ast...l-users-guide/ Look for "netfx_setupverifier_new.zip" here. Use a modern browser. https://onedrive.live.com/?id=27E6A3...E6A35D1A492AF7 There is usually one version of .NET that cannot be easily dealt with, as it was in the OS when the OS was installed. The table at the bottom here indicates Windows 7 had "3.5" by default. Windows Features makes "3.5.1" a tick-box installable. Programs and Features, if you find an existing .NET entry, you can try "Repair" rather than "Remove" from the options. Then, if that doesn't work, look for a download. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework If .NET 3.0 is damaged on your machine, I don't know what to tell you. Repair Install is an option, but I don't know if a less-obnoxious option is available to repair the built-in NET or not. That's the problem with Microsoft making them built-in, is repairing them. ******* Downloading the Windows Update is *never* easy. It's not just you having problems. One of my sidelines, is kicking the tires on Windows Update, over and over and over again... It's a constant source of irritation. ******* Whatever happened to your machine, is a "professional level" mistake/accident. So you cannot expect the normal bandaids we apply here, to help all that much. Without knowing what that person thought they were doing, it's pretty hard to guess how deep the damage is. Paul Hi Paul, Thanks for your insightful and helpful reply. I do have a full backup on an external hard drive, but I do not dare give that to the Geek Squad guys, after they struck out twice. I now think that my limited ability to transfer data is far safer than these geek idiots, including copy and paste from the external hard drive. My only problem now, while awaiting my new laptop back from H-P, is that my old laptop cannot download any Win 7 updates, due to the error(s) induced by the Geeks. I will try a fix with your suggestions, and await the return of my new laptop. Thanks again, Mort |
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Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates
Dear Glowing,
Thanks for your helpful suggestions, which I shall tend to soon. I do have a full backup of my old laptop on an external hard drive, but dare not give it to those geeks, after they ruined 2 computers while attempting a simple data transfer. It taught me a valuable lesson. Mort GlowingBlueMist wrote: On 10/12/2016 3:45 PM, Mort wrote: Hi, I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a geek shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live classical concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job on this same work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they not do the transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P for repair. On the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However, 1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given, 80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied". 2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a "fatal error". Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done. Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework and then download the updates to Windows 7? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Mort Linder Give this link a view for a relatively easy way to transfer your stuff over to your new PC, when you get it back that is. http://www.easeus.com/free-pc-transfer-software/ Mind you I have not used the program myself, mainly because I was just made aware of it, but it sounds interesting. As for installing the framework stuff and upgrades is to give WSUS a try. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../bb332157.aspx It does take a little getting used to but instructions are on the same web page. People here have answered questions on how to get it working as well from time to time and it is still supported, so far. You might want to try Start|Control Panel|Programs and Features|Turn Windows features on or off and put a check on the Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5.1 and follow the instructions to install that version. The rest can actually be installed individually on the Microsoft web site or thru the WSUS program. |
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:42:51 -0400, Paul
wrote: *Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without having a *complete* backup of the hard drive. My recommendation is stronger than yours: *Never* take a computer to the Geek Squad. Period. |
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Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates
Hi Stan,
I neglected to mention that I DO have a complete backup on an external hard drive. However, I dare not give it to those geeks after they ruined 2 laptops in a simple data transfer attempt. The ironic thing is that 2 years ago they did an excellent data transfer job for me. I shall attempt to copy and paste the needed info from my backup to my laptops,and hope for the best. At least, my precious live classical music concerts and my thousands of edited photos are intact. Thanks for your reply, which I do appreciate. Mort Stan Brown wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:42:51 -0400, Paul wrote: Mort wrote: [quoted text muted] Thanks in advance, Mort Linder You've now learned a new "best practices". It is: *Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without having a *complete* backup of the hard drive. You posted my thought before I did. Unfortunately, most people have to learn the hard way about the importance of complete backups. I sympathize with Mort, but don't have anything helpful to offer. |
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Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:42:51 -0400, Paul wrote: *Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without having a *complete* backup of the hard drive. My recommendation is stronger than yours: *Never* take a computer to the Geek Squad. Period. Thank you. I found that out the hard way, and will NEVER again do that. I was fooled by their efficient data transfer 2 years ago, but that was with a different crew. Mort |
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